I hope you are wrong in this case Jed.  To intentionally delay the introduction 
of LENR products and the wonders that they will release is criminal!  Many 
lives hang in the balance.  We may harbor ill will towards Garwin and Lewis, 
but I find it difficult to believe that they are of that low caliber.  It did 
anger me to view that early meeting where Lewis attempted to ridicule P&F by 
making unsupported claims about their techniques and data.  His behavior was 
more like I would expect from a bully instead of an experienced scientist.


Surely you do not believe that he was attacking them just to ensure his job 
security.  I gathered that the attack was due to his belief that the pair was 
incompetent and their procedures were amateurish.  It would have served 
everyone better had Lewis taken time to discuss his questions in private with 
the guys instead of that public forum.  This is especially true since Lewis 
apparently did not realize the quality of the work P&F performed.


If the hot fusion scientists actually made an effort to derail the cold fusion 
work while knowing it was valid they should all be immediately fired and 
disgraced.  I don't know about the rest of you guys, but to me your integrity 
is important and I would rather find a new job due to mine being eliminated by 
a new discovery than to deny that discovery.  I will loose all respect for 
these guys if what you say is true.


Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Jan 3, 2014 7:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:McKubre visitors who peer-reviewed his lab, then get 
(unethically) silent



David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:

 

Although your take on the subject might be the correct one, I find it difficult 
to imagine that anyone with integrity would act in that manner.



The world is full of people without integrity. In academia, high & mighty 
professors engage in all kinds of unethical behavior, such as plagiarism. They 
reject papers from young researchers during peer-review, and then steal the 
ideas. That's how they got high & mighty.


Scientists have the notion that they are especially honest and they must be 
truthful because the scientific method always works in the end, and falsehoods 
or errors will be found out. I have seen no evidence for this. Scientists get 
away with lying more often people in many other professions do. Programmers, 
farmers and even bankers are more honest, in my experience.

I think Garwin is being disingenuous.


I would also point to the Upton Sinclair quote Axil noted: "It is difficult to 
get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not 
understanding it!"

- Jed
 


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