Harry--

A photon--light is thought to be an electric field and an orthogonal magnetic 
field which oscillate with an amplitude and frequency characteristic of the 
energy of the photon, and propagate through space empty space at the speed of 
light c.  There is no charge that creates the magnetic field of the photon nor 
the electric field  that I know of.   

Also there is a recent experiment from Sweden or Finland that seems to identify 
a magnetic monopole at very low temperatures.  Magnetic monopoles have been 
conjectured for many years--even before I studies physics in the late 50's.  It 
is not clear how a circulating charge could create a monopole.  Check this 
link--http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v505/n7485/full/nature12954.html

Bob


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: H Veeder 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 12:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Magnetism doesn't exist





  On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 3:25 PM, John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:

    Except for when I have written it, I have never seen the words "Magnetism 
doesn't exist" written.


    But this confuses me because while the illusion of magnetism is pretty 
convincing we can all agree the expected forces in any magnetic situation are 
electric at each end (magnetic fields are created by and felt as electric 
fields orthogonal to the claimed magnetic field).
    And the expected so-called magnetic forces are predicted by the distortion 
of motion on electric fields.


    Each and every magnetic force/induction from magnetism can be expected by 
looking at how the electric fields are distorted through motion.


    And when I first figured that out, I thought it was just my idea, till the 
good folks on this list many years ago pointed out that all of this was known, 
that Special Relativity included precisely this.


    So given that the forces are expected without any magnetic field, just a 
complete (and complex) analysis of electric fields distorting from motion 
(vector sum analysis).
    And given that magnetic fields are only created by moving charges and only 
ever felt as a perpendicular electrical force.


    They why does no one else but me say "Magnetic fields do not exist!"??




  This requires that motion also does not exist or is illusion.

  Harry


    Certainly they are a convincing and useful illusion. 
    Sure, holding 2 permanent magnets can make holding this belief very hard, 
but but if the permanent magnets are replaced with electromagnets it is easy to 
see how all the expected forces and induction occurs from the moving electric 
fields pancaking, and the lines bending when feed AC.


    John


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