My current clue to the detail underpinning of LENR and its relationship to spin is the Fractional Quantum Hall Effect.
In a nutshell, a magnetic field can shield the coulomb barrier. How the magnetic field does it is by creating vortex quasi particles that chase the fermion around (aka compound fermion). The more of these quasi particles that are generated, the more screening that is produced. The magnetic field couples to the Higgs field (aka the vacuum) with the aid of the fermion as it minimizes its coulomb repulsion and in so doing produces spin and charge quasi particles. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Bob Cook <[email protected]> wrote: > Jones--Bob Cook here-- > > I know the Zeeman effect and studied it way back when. The Stark effect I > am not familiar with, however it sounds like it splits an energy state of > the quantum system to introduce different resonance frequencies as > influenced by the local electric field. It may also affect the spin > quantum states. I do not understand the coupling between an electric field > and the spin state of a QM system. It may occur through the electric > quadrapole moment of the system in question. My experience inflated to its > max amounts to less than .01 atmosphere. > > If you recall at the beginning of this line of questions on the spin > issue, my first input was aimed at getting somebody identified that knows > the coupling mechanisms well. Its been a long time--50 years-- since I > have quantitatively addressed the subject. > > I need to get a good text book and do some study. The one I mentioned by > Roy in a previous comment may be useful. > > I would not dismiss anyone like Mills. He is smart and has been working > in the field for a long time. Jones is in the same category. I think the > Italian group at Bologna may have been the real leaders in theory, with > Focardi being the best. It took Rossi to make it practical from an > engineering standpoint. > > My experience has primarily been in the fission reactor arena with waste > management as a add-on late in life. However, what you say about the devil > is in the details is absolutely correct from this experience. There may be > several devils in the LENR process. I think Rossi has them collared though. > > In the Jones experiment I would definitely look at the effect of electric > dipole oscillating fields as well as electric quadrapole oscillating > fields. The orientation of these fields with respect to the external > magnetic field should be checked as to effect. A look at the magnetic > moments of the nuclei in the system and any known magnetic or electric > resonances would be prime input frequencies to check for effects on energy > output as was seen in the Jones experiment. (Rossi must have good data in > this regard for the Ni system.) > > The Mossbauer effect may relate to coupling of lattice vibrations and > nuclear high spin state decay--energy fractionation in the lingo of > Hagelstein. If that were the case, stimulation of the lattice may allow > high (excited) spin states to exist since fractionation would be more > probable. > > Can you explain your idea of an "inverse Mossbauer effect" for Ni-61 a > little better. > > Keep in mind that these QM systems try to decay to the lowest energy state > possible considering conservation laws of energy and angular > momentum--spin--etc. Given the big energy sink of the He-4 particle, I > would not be surprised to find it in the Ni system as a product. It would > be interesting to know the pressure increase or decrease in the Rossi > reactor with time which would shed light on hydrogen depletion and helium > production, if any. Without helium production the reactor pressure should > go to 0 as the hydrogen is used. Would not that be nice. > > > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jones Beene" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 3:03 PM > > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Spin this ... > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Bob Cook >> >> I first did NMR experiments in my senior year, 1961, at Ed's alma >>> mater... >>> >> >> With that kind of NMR experience, Bob, perhaps you can help me out with >> this. We could be on the door steps of locating a missing piece of the >> puzzle connecting LENR to NMR. >> >> The devil is in the details. I've stumbled upon what could be an important >> reference to the "Stark shift" in hydrogen at 429 kHz. That is unlikely to >> be a coincidence with the SJ presentation. >> >> The Stark effect is the electric analogue of the Zeeman effect where a >> spectral line is split into several components due to the presence of a >> magnetic field. It is mentioned in Randell Mills work, and it has Rydberg >> values written all over it. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stark_effect >> >> Of course, many in LENR look at Mills' work as little more than a >> predecessor state or transitory condition which leads to LENR, and one >> which >> is perhaps not even exothermic on its own. It therefore must progress to >> something nuclear to achieve thermal gain. That lack of full understanding >> is why BLP has been unable to show anything more interesting than >> spot-welder "firecrackers" in 2014. >> >> But this finding of Steven Jones - of an RF signature at ~430 kHz >> coincident >> with a large energy spike in LENR could be a smoking gun which opens up >> the >> entire field to a higher level of understanding. >> >> The obvious next step - when one knows the signature for gain (assuming >> this >> is it) - is to apply input power at that frequency (or maybe a quarter wl) >> and look for positive feedback. >> >> After all the surname of NMR is resonance. Heck, we could be looking an >> "inverse Mossbauer effect" in 61 Ni. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
