Once I made a calculation of the attraction between two charged particles that 
are moving together at a constant velocity relative to my frame of reference.  
I was pleasantly surprised to find that as the velocity of the two charges 
approached the speed of light, a perfect balance between the electric force and 
the magnetic force was achieved.  This implied that there would be precisely 
zero electromagnetic force between the two and hence no acceleration either 
together or apart at the speed of light.  This matches the special theory of 
relativity since at light speed the time dilation reaches infinity for the 
objects being viewed.

Since their time was slowed down to zero, they should not be seen as 
accelerating towards or away from each other.

Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Nigel Dyer <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Feb 15, 2014 3:08 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Velocity dependent model of Coulomb's law


          
    I may be being stupid here, but if you have two charged particles    moving 
towards each other then can they not be thought of as    generating magnetic 
fields, and that these magnetic fields would    form the basis of an additional 
attraction alongside the column    force.  electric and magnetic fields differ 
only in their frame of    reference.
    
    I could well imagine that there are multiple ways of  showing this,    
including Burchells, and it may well be that this might be a better    way of 
modelling it in some circumstances, but is his extra velocity    term for the 
colomb attraction not just something that we are    familiar with but under a 
different guise?
    
    Nigel
    
    
On 15/02/2014 07:37, H Veeder wrote:
    
    
      
He is certainly not the first person to formulate a        velocity dependent 
version of Coulomb's law, but I think his        formulation is the first to 
make use of a distinction between        the velocity of approach and the 
velocity of recession. (If I        have understood him correctly, it would 
mean if one was only        interested in the force on an electron orbiting a 
proton in a        perfectly circular orbit, the force would be described by 
the        standard Coulomb's law since there would be no velocity of        
approach or recession.)         
          

          
          
He tries to explain gravity using his theory but he            concedes that 
there still may be a significant portion of            gravity which is not 
explained by his theory. http://www.alternativephysics.org/book/Gravity.htm
          

          
          
Harry
            

              
              
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:40 PM,                John Berry 
<[email protected]>                wrote:
                
                  
It would make sense, a Doppler like                    effect is very 
reasonable with electric fields.                    
                      
                    
                    
Now if this is so, it is very possible that                      gravity could 
be explained this way.
                    

                    
                  
                  

                    
                    
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at                      7:09 PM, H Veeder 
<[email protected]>                      wrote:
                      
                        
James Bowery and other vortex                          members,
                          
                          
Today I learned about the the work of                            Bernard 
Burchell.
                            He argues for a velocity dependent version          
                  of coulomb's law*
                            
                            In his model the coloumb force between two          
                  like charges increases when the charges are                   
         moving together and decreases when they are                            
moving apart.
                          
The reverse is true for opposite charges.
                          

                          
                          
The revised law:
                          

                          
                          
F = {K(q1)(q2)/r^2} {1 + [(q1)(q2)(v1-                            v2)]/c}^3
                          

                          
                          
He goes into more detail here:
                          
http://www.alternativephysics.org/book/RelativisticMass.htm
                            
                          
                          
This is just a small fraction of his                            work. He has 
many bold and wonderful ideas                            in his free on-line 
book. 
                          

                            http://www.alternativephysics.org/
                            
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                            * I made a similar proposal on vortex               
             sometime ago although it was nothing more                          
  than an intuition and I only considered like                            
charges: 
                            
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg45063.html
                            
                            Harry
                          
                        
                      
                    
                    
                  
                
              
              
            
          
        
      
    
    
  

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