The universe is a spin net liquid, that they have called the Higgs field.

On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 9:39 PM, John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:

> Not that it matters, but I gave the speed of light in km a second and then
> said meters a second...
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> Also, I would genuinely like to know if anyone disagrees with my
> arguments, or fails to understand them.
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> And if you do agree, would you conclude that an aether of some type is
> logically required?
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> John
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> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:21 PM, John Berry <[email protected]>wrote:
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>> Originally the  aether was thought to exist, but it was hoped the earth
>> would move though it rather than entrain it, maybe as a continued departure
>> from earth centric thinking, or more likely because a static aether was far
>> more simple than trying to understand an aether that was entrained to some
>> degree by Earth.
>>
>> First Michelson and Morley performed an experiment which if not flawed
>> (some say it is) would show if the earth moved though an aether, however
>> such was not detected.
>> However this did not disprove an entrained aether, Michelson and or
>> Morley still believed in an aether.
>> Indeed drifts with the M-M experiment were detected, just really tiny
>> ones consistent with with a mostly entrained aether, but larger drifts have
>> been detected up mountains in glass houses than in brick basements where
>> aether might be more poorly entrained.
>>
>> Next came Einstein with SR, he showed how an aether wasn't required if
>> space and time distorted in the right ways.
>> Actually he still believed in an aether, although a very different one.
>>
>> Let's look at Time dilation.
>>
>> First off I must say that SR arguments works and look alright until you
>> change your view slightly.
>> Let's take a pulse of light, some observers on the ground measuring the
>> time this pulse takes to traverse 2 detectors 1 meter apart, they get a
>> speed of 299,292.458 meters a second.
>>
>> Then we have have this pulse run along train tracks past a train, they
>> detect this light pulse which they are moving with, and they are meant to
>> detect the same speed.
>> This is an impossibility, except for length contraction and time
>> dilation, only it is still impossible!
>>
>> The first thing to appreciate is that there is an illusion that will
>> appear to create length contraction and time dilation, but this illusion is
>> not real at all.
>> It is the Doppler effect, consider that if I was shooting at you and
>> moving towards you, each bullet would have less travel time causing an
>> increase in the rate at which I seem to be firing bullets, this is the same
>> effect as pitch changes in horns as cars go by.  If I was moving away from
>> you it would appear the rate of fire decreased.  But of course the rate of
>> fire is unchanged
>>
>> This will create an illusion of the rate of time, but this illusion can
>> be removed through calculation, or by communication of time rate
>> orthogonally to direction of travel.
>> a          b->
>>
>>
>>              c
>>
>> b is moving away from a, but both a and b can sync clocks with c. since b
>> and c have a period where they are not moving away or toward each other
>> they can keep track of each others progress through time without and
>> Doppler effects in the way.
>>
>> Secondly the Doppler effect causes a length contraction (and expansion)
>> illusion, this is where at any moment a sees b, it sees light from
>> different points in time and hence different positions for the closer and
>> furthest part of b.
>> Because the light from the furthest part of b takes longer to get to a,
>> by the time it has got to a the image a has of the closer portion of the
>> ship is slightly newer and based on a position further away.
>>
>> This causes an illusion of length contraction, but for c this length
>> contraction also has not occurred.
>> And if we add 'stationary' point d that b is moving towards it would see
>> a length expansion which SR ignores completely.
>>
>> So if there is real time and length contraction it is important to
>> separate that from this bogus, illusive form of these effects.
>> And it is important to realise that observer c collapses any possibility
>> of time dilation occurring without a preferred reference frame, if a time
>> rate difference exists between b and c it can be agreed upon between both b
>> and c, they can't see the other as experiencing time slower than they are
>> because they can observe each other without the Doppler distortion, if they
>> both saw the other as frozen in time what happens if they both reach a
>> common reference frame, and meet, would they have to see the time rate on
>> the other suddenly make up for all that time they saw the other being
>> frozen?
>>
>> It just doesn't work.
>>
>> Next let's go back to our train and light pulses, if the train is seen to
>> shrink from the earth frame, then the distance of the meter shrinks so even
>> though they are moving with the light pulse the stationary observer could
>> expect their speed of light measure to agree.
>> But now what if we send another pulse in the other direction???
>>
>> Now the earth measures the expected rate, sure.
>> But the train is travelling against the direction, this would cause them
>> to expect to find the light to be, ahem,  superluminal.
>> So again we hop off the train and see the length of the train has
>> contracted, this helped light travelling with the train attain it's
>> expected speed, but now it is working against us!
>>
>> Clearly length contraction might be effective at fixing the speed of
>> light in one direction, but it heaps up the problem on the other side.
>>
>> How can light speed possibly be corrected by something that only works
>> with one half of the problem and makes the other side worse?
>> You can't just turn length contraction off and on when and where it
>> suits, if it exists it exists for both problems.
>>
>> Ok, so how about time dilation?
>>
>> Well I have already argued that time dilation without a discoverable
>> preferred reference frame simply isn't possible, and time dilation
>> with a discoverable preferred reference frame isn't SR, it is an 
>> aethericmodel.
>>
>> But let's just argue it anyway?
>> So to the outside observer according to SR the time on the train should
>> slow down, does this fix our measured light speed problem?
>> Well if the train is moving with the light pulse direction, from the
>> earth view the passage of time on the train has slowed, this means that
>> their clock is moving slowly and so even though they are moving with the
>> light which should make the light seem slow, the light might be measured to
>> be the same speed since their clock are slow, and the length contraction on
>> top of that.
>>
>> But if the light pulse is opposite the trains motion, they might expect
>> to measure the light to be faster than C.
>> So time dilation slows their clock down, so even less train clock time
>> passes before light moves across the length contracted meter that separates
>> the 2 light sensors.
>>
>> Seriously, how has this illusion lasted for so long when it only helps
>> light travelling with the train/spaceship but compounds the problem for
>> light moving the other direction?
>>
>> I can accept that these arguments will not persuade an intellectually
>> dishonest establishment science.
>>
>> But can we agree that this is not a realistic model of the universe?
>> And if it is not, what model could exist that agrees with all physical
>> evidence besides an entrained aether?
>>
>> And if the aether is entrained, then can an electrodynamic experiment to
>> prove or disprove this not be found?
>>
>> John
>>
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