What is the course of an open ender positive feedback loop without limit. An eventual explosion. Nothing lasts forever in a positive feedback loop. There is always a limit to everything.
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 3:00 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: > Interesting. But how does the net field become large unless some > mechanism coordinates the destruction of the balls? Many random direction > vectors yields near zero sums. > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Axil Axil <[email protected]> > To: vortex-l <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, Mar 2, 2014 2:55 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Christopher H. Cooper" > > Yes, there is a load of fun in this sort of speculation. One possibility > is that micro sized magnetic balls as described by DGT that start small and > grow to huge power until they explode could produce a varying magnetic > field that would induce a current through changing magnetic flux.. > > > On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 2:46 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> That brings back fond memories. He does say e.m.f. which makes me >> wonder how he performed that measurement. I would anticipate that he must >> use at least two probes to come to that conclusion and his active material >> hopefully does not short out the voltage. >> >> Another possibility is that he measured a large magnetic field which he >> assumes must be as a result of DC current flowing. Since DC current or AC >> for that matter requires a loop voltage in order to flow, it makes sense to >> believe that an e.m.f. is present. Actually, an e.m.f. should be present >> in that case and what Rossi states below about an expert observing it falls >> into line. >> >> I find myself wondering if there are other good ways to achieve very high >> strength magnetic fields without currents flowing. Permanent magnets offer >> a clue. >> >> I am guessing here and attempting to decode Rossi speak at the same >> time. That has its hazards! :-) >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Axil Axil <[email protected]> >> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sun, Mar 2, 2014 2:25 pm >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Christopher H. Cooper" >> >> Andrea Rossi >> > December 30th, 2012 at 3:01 PM >> > http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=771&cpage=4#comment-514345 >> >> Dear Bernie Koppenhofer: >> You are touching a very important point: during these very days, and >> also >> during the more recent tests, we are working on this issue. I think we >> will >> be able to produce directly e.m.f. , but much work has to be done. >> Actually, we already produced direct e.m.f. with the reactors at high >> temperature, and we measured it with the very precise measurement >> instrumentation introduced by the third party expert, but we are not >> ready >> for an industrial production, while we are at a high level of >> industrialization for the production of heat and, at this point , also >> of >> high temperature steam, which is the gate to the Carnot Cycle. Thank you >> for your good comment. >> Warm Regards, >> A.R. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I believe that heat is not the only product of the LENR reaction. It >>> may not even the most important sink for LENR power generation. I believe >>> that electron production is a major magnification of over unity power >>> generation. >>> Rossi indicated that there was an unknown source of current production >>> in his reactor and he was looking into how this could happen. >>> I know that the PAPP engine produced current out of whole cloth. The >>> design of the engine depended on it. >>> Here is my take on where these electrons are coming from. When the >>> magnetic field strength gets strong enough, mesons are condensed out of the >>> vacuum. The final decay products of mesons are electrons. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> I also find it amazing that DGT seems to overlook the implications of >>>> their discovery. It reminds me of not seeing the forest through the trees. >>>> >>>> Since Rossi made an earlier claim that he might be able to generate >>>> electricity directly by some obscure discovery, I suspect that he realized >>>> the importance of the large magnetic fields residing within his device. So >>>> far he has kept this type of information private, carefully leaking out the >>>> news of some non specific discovery. Rossi knows when to release findings >>>> that might assist competitors. >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Axil Axil <[email protected]> >>>> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Sun, Mar 2, 2014 1:23 pm >>>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Christopher H. Cooper" >>>> >>>> Like you, any one of us can only do so much of what is required. >>>> To come up with an all inclusive theory, we must trust the word and the >>>> work done by others. >>>> >>>> I must admit that I trust DGT. So far, their experimental observation >>>> about magnetic field strength has no impact on the theory (HEMI) that they >>>> put forward. >>>> >>>> They have no theroritical based interest in misleading us to advance >>>> their theory base on Dr. Kims work. >>>> >>>> Like us, DGT is simply amazed at the magnetic nature of their >>>> experimental find but have not connected it to HEMI in any way. This is >>>> hard to understand. >>>> >>>> On the part of DGT, there is no self interest in tossing an almost >>>> unbelievable finding into their finding and in fact this finding undercuts >>>> HEMI. >>>> >>>> In fact such a finding is a major distraction. They really need to do >>>> a major rethink of their experimental position on HEMI and BEC as per Dr. >>>> Kim. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 10:47 AM, Axil Axil wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > These Nanoplasmonic experiments with uranium can be done >>>>> inexpensively, why can't Ed replicate these experiments? >>>>> >>>>> Because I have only two hands and no financial support. If you want >>>>> this replicated, I suggest you hire someone to do this. >>>>> >>>>> Ed Storms >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
