Positive coefficient of reactivity can never be positive...should read...
The coefficient of reactivity can never be positive.


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Bob Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>  Axil--
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>> Fission reactors with water cooling generally have a negative temperature
>>  feedback and are much safer than metal coolant reactors with positive
>> temperature feedback.  However,  metal cooled reactors have been designed
>> and worked ok.  With good design even a positive temperature feedback  may
>> work.
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>  In a uranium reactor, U238 provides the negative temperature control
> through Doppler broadening.
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> http://www.safetyinengineering.com/FileUploads/Nuclear%20reactor%20stability%20and%20controllability_1314016641_2.pdf
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> Light water absorbs more neutrons then heavy water and sodium hardly
> absorbs any neutrons (fast ones) at all.
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> Designing a fission reactor requires a lot of experience and education.
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> Positive coefficient of reactivity can never be positive. That is inviting
> a possibility of super criticality.  A reactor that can go super critical
> cannot be licensed.
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> In a QM system things happen so fast it would be harder to control than in
>> a fission reactor.   The key for control may be to limit the size of the QM
>> system that reacts at any time, or increase the response time of
>> the initiator--may the on-off pulse of the magnetic field in the case of
>> the Pd and Ni systems.
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> The DGT LENR reactor is only supercritical when the spark is arcing.
> But when the spark is off, that reactor returns to sub criticality.
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> DGT tossed Rossi out of their deal because his reactor can go super
> critical. DGT designed their home grown reactor to be inherently safe
> through sub criticality just like all fission reactors.
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>> Bob
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Axil Axil <[email protected]>
>> *To:* vortex-l <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 02, 2014 12:04 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:"Christopher H. Cooper"
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>> What is the course of an open ender positive feedback loop without limit.
>> An eventual explosion. Nothing lasts forever in a positive feedback loop.
>> There is always a limit to everything.
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>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 3:00 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]>wrote:
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>>> Interesting.  But how does the net field become large unless some
>>> mechanism coordinates the destruction of the balls?  Many random direction
>>> vectors yields near zero sums.
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>>> Dave
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>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Axil Axil <[email protected]>
>>> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
>>>  Sent: Sun, Mar 2, 2014 2:55 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Christopher H. Cooper"
>>>
>>>  Yes, there is a load of fun in this sort of speculation. One
>>> possibility is that micro sized magnetic balls as described by DGT that
>>> start small and grow to huge power until they explode could produce a
>>> varying magnetic field that would induce a current through changing
>>> magnetic flux..
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>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 2:46 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]>wrote:
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>>>> That brings back fond memories.  He does say e.m.f. which makes me
>>>> wonder how he performed that measurement.  I would anticipate that he must
>>>> use at least two probes to come to that conclusion and his active material
>>>> hopefully does not short out the voltage.
>>>>
>>>> Another possibility is that he measured a large magnetic field which he
>>>> assumes must be as a result of DC current flowing.  Since DC current or AC
>>>> for that matter requires a loop voltage in order to flow, it makes sense to
>>>> believe that an e.m.f. is present.  Actually, an e.m.f. should be present
>>>> in that case and what Rossi states below about an expert observing it falls
>>>> into line.
>>>>
>>>> I find myself wondering if there are other good ways to achieve very
>>>> high strength magnetic fields without currents flowing.  Permanent magnets
>>>> offer a clue.
>>>>
>>>> I am guessing here and attempting to decode Rossi speak at the same
>>>> time.  That has its hazards! :-)
>>>>
>>>> Dave
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>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Axil Axil <[email protected]>
>>>> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
>>>>  Sent: Sun, Mar 2, 2014 2:25 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Christopher H. Cooper"
>>>>
>>>>  Andrea Rossi
>>>> > December 30th, 2012 at 3:01 PM
>>>> >
>>>> http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=771&cpage=4#comment-514345
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>>>>   Dear Bernie Koppenhofer:
>>>>   You are touching a very important point: during these very days, and
>>>> also
>>>>   during the more recent tests, we are working on this issue. I think
>>>> we will
>>>>   be able to produce directly e.m.f. , but much work has to be done.
>>>>   Actually, we already produced direct e.m.f. with the reactors at high
>>>>   temperature, and we measured it with the very precise measurement
>>>>   instrumentation introduced by the third party expert, but we are not
>>>> ready
>>>>   for an industrial production, while we are at a high level of
>>>>   industrialization for the production of heat and, at this point ,
>>>> also of
>>>>   high temperature steam, which is the gate to the Carnot Cycle. Thank
>>>> you
>>>>   for your good comment.
>>>>   Warm Regards,
>>>>   A.R.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>>>  I believe that heat is not the only product of the LENR reaction. It
>>>>> may not even the most important sink for LENR power generation. I believe
>>>>> that electron production is a major magnification of over unity power
>>>>> generation.
>>>>> Rossi indicated that there was an unknown source of current production
>>>>> in his reactor and he was looking into how this could happen.
>>>>> I know that the PAPP engine produced current out of whole cloth. The
>>>>> design of the engine depended on it.
>>>>> Here is my take on where these electrons are coming from. When the
>>>>> magnetic field strength gets strong enough, mesons are condensed out of 
>>>>> the
>>>>> vacuum. The final decay products of mesons are electrons.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I also find it amazing that DGT seems to overlook the implications
>>>>>> of their discovery.  It reminds me of not seeing the forest through the
>>>>>> trees.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since Rossi made an earlier claim that he might be able to generate
>>>>>> electricity directly by some obscure discovery, I suspect that he 
>>>>>> realized
>>>>>> the importance of the large magnetic fields residing within his device.  
>>>>>> So
>>>>>> far he has kept this type of information private, carefully leaking out 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> news of some non specific discovery.  Rossi knows when to release 
>>>>>> findings
>>>>>> that might assist competitors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Axil Axil <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Sun, Mar 2, 2014 1:23 pm
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Christopher H. Cooper"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Like you, any one of us can only  do so much of what is required.
>>>>>> To come up with an all inclusive theory, we must trust the word and the
>>>>>> work done by others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I must admit that I trust DGT. So far, their experimental observation
>>>>>> about magnetic field strength has no impact on the theory (HEMI) that 
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> put forward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They have no theroritical based interest in misleading us to advance
>>>>>> their theory base on Dr. Kims work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like us, DGT is simply amazed at the magnetic nature of their
>>>>>> experimental find but have not connected it to HEMI in any way. This is
>>>>>> hard to understand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the part of DGT, there is no self interest in tossing an almost
>>>>>> unbelievable finding into their finding and in fact this finding 
>>>>>> undercuts
>>>>>> HEMI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In fact such a finding is a major distraction. They really need to do
>>>>>> a major rethink of their experimental position on HEMI and BEC as per Dr.
>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Edmund Storms 
>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 10:47 AM, Axil Axil wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > These Nanoplasmonic experiments with uranium can be done
>>>>>>> inexpensively, why can't Ed replicate these experiments?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because I have only two hands and no financial support.  If you want
>>>>>>> this replicated, I suggest you hire someone to do this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ed Storms
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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