Dave--

At one point I think he indicated potassium was involved--maybe to lend some 
"heavy electrons from the S shell of potassium.  Temperature control has also 
been identifier as controlling device.  This might suggest that an infrared 
light spectrum may be important.  

Bob
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Roberson 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 7:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:NASA Langley Presentation on LENR Aircraft Study


  This recent news from Rossi leads me to believe that he has made progress in 
obtaining a more robust reaction than previously.  He does now claim to have a 
mouse activation system that excites his cat.  It is difficult to translate 
this statement into one that we understand properly at this time. 


  My best effort is that he refers to a portion of his new design that controls 
the release of hydrogen atoms or ions that then do their magic when entering 
the nickel matrix.  But on the other hand he may have a method to produce a 
strong magnetic field that reaches a threshold level in another cat section.  
Has anyone seen a clue about exactly what his cat and mouse are?


  IIRC he did not begin to discuss the very high temperature operation and 
explosion issues until mentioning the cat and mouse structure.  This discussion 
of cat and mouse reminds me of the old TV Tom and Jerry. :-)


  Dave



  -----Original Message-----
  From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
  To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
  Sent: Mon, Mar 3, 2014 9:53 am
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:NASA Langley Presentation on LENR Aircraft Study


  The control factor of which you speak may well be the production of the sites 
where the  nuclear reactions take place. The common assumption is that there is 
a fixed number of NAE, but this may not be true in all systems. The melt down 
of Rossi's reactor speaks against this assumption. Yes, some systems have a fix 
count of NAE but others must  produce NAE as a dynamic process. This may be the 
reason why a NiH reactor melts down; the increase in number of NAE gets out of 
control.


  If a system with a fixed NAE count, the NAE will just self destruct before 
meltdown occurs. Rossi has said that his reactor will stop when the micro 
nickel power melts. This looks like that statement cannot be true because the 
reaction during melt down goes far beyond the temperature that will destroy 
nickel powder. 







  On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Alan Fletcher <a...@well.com> wrote:

      One interesting concept : since Ni/H LENR might not be throttle-able, 
inject a stream of gas (H2?) and Ni nanoparticles into the reactor chamber.
      Throttle by modulating the mass content and/or velocity.


    Cold fusion produces so much energy per gram of hydrogen I do not think it 
is possible to modulate it enough to control the reaction. There are no pumps 
or valves that can admit such tiny quantities at a constant rate. It is roughly 
10 million times smaller than the delivery of gasoline by a fuel pump.


    The other problem is that this method will only work if fraction of 
hydrogen that reacts remains remains constant. I doubt that is true. I expect 
that if one moment 0.01% of the available hydrogen is consumed, the next moment 
it might be 10%. In other words, the presence of hydrogen alone does not 
control the consumption rate. Other control factors dominate. The reaction 
fluctuates a great deal when there has been no change in the amount of hydrogen 
in the cell, and probably not much change in the amount absorbed by the metal. 
Unless we can figure what these control factors are, and find ways to "control 
the control factors," I do not think cold fusion can be controlled.


    The control factors are different for gas loading versus electrolysis. No 
doubt the net result is the same, in terms of the special conditions in the 
metal (the NAE).


    - Jed



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