Whoops, accidentally interrupted my above message.   To conclude:

  That unraveling will, of course, take some great deal more effort, as
well as probably a great deal of time and money, even though we all hope(d)
that it could be carried off by the 'underground'.   Lennart Thomas seems
to have a good understanding of how the "Standard Model' of current
business operates and his general approach may yet be necessary.  It seems
likely, in fact, as soon as a little more meat is on the LENR bones (or
Rossi finally drops the bomb) that the huge industry surrounding LENR will
suddenly devleop.  Who will do this is a critical questiion.  I'd rather
not buy my lenr energy from Duke Enerergy or BP.
Cheers, ken


On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Ken Deboer <[email protected]> wrote:

> FUTURE?
>   I'd like to throw in a couple of general comments on the current trend
> of this Forum and LENR in general (Just as a cheerleader, since I am
> totally incapable of contributing or even understanding the technical
> details).
>     Despite no real evidence of any imminent breakthrough, still, we seem
> to be witnessing something like an amorphous landlside of some kind that is
> slowly inching us down (up?) towards a preliminary working model of LENR.
> The ideas floating around the last several months seem like they are kind
> of spiraling around the central kernel of the mystery.  The ideas around
> the size and shape of particles (nano and othewise), the role of magnetism,
> RF, nanoplasmonics, lattices and the like seems to be taking a (shadowy)
> shape and leads us to hope that a working synthesis might not be that far
> away.. (We eagerly await too, Dr. Storms new book and work, and Dr. Craven's
>  stuff, and MFMP, and others).
>   I am reminded of the history of genetics, where a gene was for a long
> time thought of as a 'particle of inheritance', b ut without any idea of
> what it might physically look like or how it worked.   THe concept of the
> NAE, the site of the magic activity on a metal, is analogous (and equally
> pregnant as an heuristic tool).  The nature of the gene of course has been
> beaten down into its ultimate form, and now the nature of the NAE is being
> dissected in somewhat the same manner as the gene was.  There were Nobel
> prizes attached to the genetic unraveling and there will be Nobel prizes in
> the NAE unraveling.  We would be thrilled if some of 'or guys' would be in
> that number.  At the least, there seems to be some definite directions as
> to what kind of experimental reactors to test out.
>
>
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Bob Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Yesterday Rossi (on his reader blog)  indicated that the third party
>> tests would *not* be reported before June.
>>
>> Vortexers have at least another month to speculate on the mechanism of
>> the Ni-H Rossi Effect.  However it may be quite bit longer, depending upon
>> patent disclosure strategy.  What are the possibilities regarding outing of
>> a  theory supported by good data in conjunction with the release of the
>> third party report?
>>
>> Like Rossi implies in his response to a comment yesterday regarding the
>> probability of the Rossi Effect happening naturally,  the design of his
>> reactor certainly had some design behind it.  I think Focardi nailed the
>> theory and should be hailed appropriately.   Rossi had the wherewithal to
>> add some development funds and theory of his own and probably should get
>> the Nobel Prize.  I hope it happens soon.
>>
>> I am planning a trip to Italy in September and will visit the University
>> of Bologna for two days with the objective of talking with folks who knew
>> Focardi and are currently working in the field of solid states physics and
>> nano technology.  Alain has already asked me to visit the History Dept
>> there as well to find out the facts about the death of Bruno which this
>> blog discussed a few weeks ago.
>>
>> I will report on my trip and interactions.  Vortexers that may have other
>> ideas or questions, if so inclined, should present them to me via my own
>> email address so that I might address them with the Bologna historians or
>> researchers.   Alain has already given me some good ideas and leads.
>>
>> Bob Cook
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 02, 2014 9:38 AM
>> *Subject:* [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Pasadena: Theater Arts at Caltech
>> dramatizes the discovery and debunking of “cold fusion” (bring tomatoes)
>>
>> I believe that play has been around for a while. I heard about it years
>> ago.
>>
>> - Jed
>>
>>
>

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