Sorry, I just couldn't resist, Axil.
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:45 PM, James Bowery <[email protected]> wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W67qnktk_8#t=947 > > > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > >> http://physics.aps.org/articles/v7/47 >> >> >> >> Focus: Why We Can’t Remember the Future >> >> >> >> In absolute certainty, LENR exists in the future; it is predestined >> because it will eventually be discovered just like any major operating >> principle of the universe must ultimately be. But how can we remember how >> it works in the here and now and what is its eventual configuration. The >> future exists just as surely as the past; this future just needs to be >> configured in the present to assume the certainty of that preordained >> future. >> >> >> >> We are captured by the certainty of this inescapable fate, of the surety >> of the existence of what LENR must certainly be. What is not sure, is who >> will remember that future and bring us into that future reality. The future >> is looking for someone to remember; It is the uncertainty of the present >> that we struggle under. >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Ken Deboer <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Whoops, accidentally interrupted my above message. To conclude: >>> >>> That unraveling will, of course, take some great deal more effort, as >>> well as probably a great deal of time and money, even though we all hope(d) >>> that it could be carried off by the 'underground'. Lennart Thomas seems >>> to have a good understanding of how the "Standard Model' of current >>> business operates and his general approach may yet be necessary. It seems >>> likely, in fact, as soon as a little more meat is on the LENR bones (or >>> Rossi finally drops the bomb) that the huge industry surrounding LENR will >>> suddenly devleop. Who will do this is a critical questiion. I'd rather >>> not buy my lenr energy from Duke Enerergy or BP. >>> Cheers, ken >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Ken Deboer <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> FUTURE? >>>> I'd like to throw in a couple of general comments on the current >>>> trend of this Forum and LENR in general (Just as a cheerleader, since I am >>>> totally incapable of contributing or even understanding the technical >>>> details). >>>> Despite no real evidence of any imminent breakthrough, still, we >>>> seem to be witnessing something like an amorphous landlside of some kind >>>> that is slowly inching us down (up?) towards a preliminary working model of >>>> LENR. The ideas floating around the last several months seem like they are >>>> kind of spiraling around the central kernel of the mystery. The ideas >>>> around the size and shape of particles (nano and othewise), the role of >>>> magnetism, RF, nanoplasmonics, lattices and the like seems to be taking a >>>> (shadowy) shape and leads us to hope that a working synthesis might not be >>>> that far away.. (We eagerly await too, Dr. Storms new book and work, and >>>> Dr. Craven's >>>> stuff, and MFMP, and others). >>>> I am reminded of the history of genetics, where a gene was for a long >>>> time thought of as a 'particle of inheritance', b ut without any idea of >>>> what it might physically look like or how it worked. THe concept of the >>>> NAE, the site of the magic activity on a metal, is analogous (and equally >>>> pregnant as an heuristic tool). The nature of the gene of course has been >>>> beaten down into its ultimate form, and now the nature of the NAE is being >>>> dissected in somewhat the same manner as the gene was. There were Nobel >>>> prizes attached to the genetic unraveling and there will be Nobel prizes in >>>> the NAE unraveling. We would be thrilled if some of 'or guys' would be in >>>> that number. At the least, there seems to be some definite directions as >>>> to what kind of experimental reactors to test out. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Bob Cook <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yesterday Rossi (on his reader blog) indicated that the third party >>>>> tests would *not* be reported before June. >>>>> >>>>> Vortexers have at least another month to speculate on the mechanism of >>>>> the Ni-H Rossi Effect. However it may be quite bit longer, depending upon >>>>> patent disclosure strategy. What are the possibilities regarding outing >>>>> of >>>>> a theory supported by good data in conjunction with the release of the >>>>> third party report? >>>>> >>>>> Like Rossi implies in his response to a comment yesterday regarding >>>>> the probability of the Rossi Effect happening naturally, the design of >>>>> his >>>>> reactor certainly had some design behind it. I think Focardi nailed the >>>>> theory and should be hailed appropriately. Rossi had the wherewithal to >>>>> add some development funds and theory of his own and probably should get >>>>> the Nobel Prize. I hope it happens soon. >>>>> >>>>> I am planning a trip to Italy in September and will visit the >>>>> University of Bologna for two days with the objective of talking with >>>>> folks >>>>> who knew Focardi and are currently working in the field of solid states >>>>> physics and nano technology. Alain has already asked me to visit the >>>>> History Dept there as well to find out the facts about the death of Bruno >>>>> which this blog discussed a few weeks ago. >>>>> >>>>> I will report on my trip and interactions. Vortexers that may have >>>>> other ideas or questions, if so inclined, should present them to me via my >>>>> own email address so that I might address them with the Bologna historians >>>>> or researchers. Alain has already given me some good ideas and leads. >>>>> >>>>> Bob Cook >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> *From:* Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, May 02, 2014 9:38 AM >>>>> *Subject:* [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Pasadena: Theater Arts at Caltech >>>>> dramatizes the discovery and debunking of “cold fusion” (bring tomatoes) >>>>> >>>>> I believe that play has been around for a while. I heard about it >>>>> years ago. >>>>> >>>>> - Jed >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
