Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: Anybody who tries to make a start in the LENR business deserves support > form LENR advocates for even trying to succeed this difficult field. >
I do not think we should support a company that has never published any data, and that cannot measure the difference between 0 L and 1 L/min. This situation is reversed for you and more pressing. Why go out on a limb > and discredit DGT. Is your opinion and objectivity worth only $1,400. > Don't be silly. You know that my opinion has nothing to do with the $1,400. I have spent over a hundred thousand dollars on cold fusion experiments without a single successful experiment to show for it. The $1,400 is a small amount of money to me. However, it does prove that Defkalion is either broke or they are deadbeats who do not pay their bills. They owe far larger sums of money to other people. > One way or another, the truth will be known before the end of this year. > The truth is irrefutable now! They cannot measure the difference between 0 and 1 L/min. If there is some other truth -- such as independent confirmation of a successful test -- let them publish it. For now, all we know about them is that their calorimetry is wrong. No one here has any other information about Defkalion. You don't; Peter does not; Prof. Kim does not. That is ALL WE KNOW. If I am wrong about that, you should tell us what you know. Where is a published paper from Defkalion describing an experiment? > As things are turning out, DGT made a big mistake to try and show > capability at ICCF-18 to gain support from a prejudiced and irrevocably > non-supportive audience such as these LENR experts. > They made a big mistake in calorimetry. They could easily gain support from LENR experts if they would do the experiment correctly and publish their results. Experts do not "support" people who make idiotic mistakes and refuse to publish anything. Any "expert" who does that will destroy his own reputation as an expert. They invited several LENR experts, NI and NASA experts to look at the experiment. The experts all said, "that is not working." They told Defkalion why it is not working. Defkalion did nothing to improve the experiment. Heck, I told them specifically to confirm the flow rate with stop watch and cylinder, and so did several other people. I told them that a dozen times. They ignored me. They ignored everyone else. As far as I know, they ignored all expert advice. > Such gestures are not useful in a audience that is so jealous. prejudiced > and backbiting. > You can't be serious! Do you really think it is "jealousy and backbiting" to point out that when people measure a flow rate of 1 L/min when the flow is actually zero, those people have made a gigantic mistake?!? What are we supposed to do? Praise them? Agree with them that it is actually 1 L, and there was actually 16 kW? Do you think loyalty and friendliness trump facts? That's crazy. This is science, not a 3rd grade talent show. They do not get a gold star for trying. - Jed
