Dear Axil, first what is shown is not benign, but this does not say DGT is criminal from its inception. Desperate people do stupid things; Paranoid people do stupid things.
The second is however that if it was a mistake, or even a temporary failure during a demo, and even if the demo was indeed tweaked as Luca describe, Defkalion had 9 month, in private or in public, to reassure Luca himself, and why not us. In the case, the case I judge as sign of "huge lack of wisdom", that despite not answering to luca, Defkalion anyway have a working reactor in it's lab, it should let Luca test it (even if only calorimetry is allowed, only but all calorimetry method), or if they don't trust him, let a third party make a boiler test and inform Luca. I'm conscious that in that affair many millions have been burned, and more of Xanthoulis money than of Gamberale&al , so I don't estimate that it was a void scam story... however something irrational, desperate, paranoid, have happened... whether it was wishful thinking, self-delusion, conspiracy theories, it is no more our business. question is if it works or not. A boiler test made by a non physicist team (why not electricians and plumbers, experience in testing), would give a solid answer and no risk of IP leak. By the way I feel it is absurd to ask physicist to do calorimetry ... it is a job of plumbers, electricians, their engineer counter parts, petrochemist, boiler testers, or at worst of industry chemist. Physicist (true for nuclear physicists, less for others), as Beaudette explained, are incompetent in calorimetry, and are only good to find the theory, not to challenge the experimental results. 2014-05-21 8:54 GMT+02:00 Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>: > I have respected Jed to the highest degree in these recent discussions, > and I have tried to understand how DGT can be a criminal organization as a > cold fusion developer as Jed is asserting. I can not understand how a cold > fusion developer can be criminal. I also have assured my opinion that > Gamberale cannot be trusted. I understand that Gamberale is more a Judas > than a whittle blower. > > It is tragic that most people will not give the developers of a prototype > Cold fusion system the benefit of the doubt when errors occur or lack of > expertize is shown in demos. Remember, Rossi has been accused of fraud > often while he was learning the Ni/H ropes and the proper ways of > demonstrating it. > > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 2:31 AM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> I don't have any confidence that you'll listen to me. So I'm on the >> record as to where you went off the edge. Someone else on the list had the >> responsibility of being your fence, of warning you that you were close to >> the edge. I was too busy. Maybe the next time you play close to the edge >> you'll be more attentive to your surroundings. >> >> >> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> To help me in avoiding the edge, please identify the edge and explain >>> how I am going over it. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 2:08 AM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> People like you who go over the edge can't see what they're doing >>>> wrong. When you come back from the edge, if you don't apologize to those >>>> whom you've besmirched, like Jed, then you won't be trusted for anything >>>> other than taking out the garbage. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:02 PM, Daniel Rocha >>>> <danieldi...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't know about Axil, but I am talking about things I know and try >>>>> to understand. Why should I stop? I am not doing anything wrong. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2014-05-21 2:50 GMT-03:00 Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>>> Lately, you and Axil have gone off the edge. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Daniel Rocha - RJ >>>>> danieldi...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
