Yes, that is what is hilarious about the responders in that forum. They 
understand none of condensed matter physics, it's not even in their universe, 
yet they stalk about like ice skating judges. It is tempting to go in there and 
rebuke them in a way they will remember, but I just don't care enough to bother 
with it.


-drl

 
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 From: Axil Axil <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENr debate on scienceforum.net
 


Here is some theory for them...

The hot fusion guys can’t understand how the cold fusion guys can overcome the 
coulomb barrier so easily. 
The key is Strongly Correlated Material, a condensed matter physics term used 
in type II superconductivity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strongly_correlated_material
In hot fusion, just a few subatomic particles are used in a vain attempt 
overcome the coulomb barrier through brut force high energy collision.
In LENR, billions of trillions of electrons who are all working together using 
quantum mechanics to overcome the coulomb barrier. 

The proof of this reality is the formation of cooper pairs of electrons in Type 
II superconductivity.
In this process this huge ensemble of electrons become  strong enough to 
overcome the coulomb barrier between the fermions in a cooper pair. In type II 
superconductors, this process is called fractionalization, another condence 
physics term. When a large group of electrons are packed so tightly together by 
the arrangement of atoms in the superconductor material (Mott insulator), in 
order for one to move one beyond another, they must tunnel to where they are 
forced to go. And quantum tunneling is the only thing that they can do in such 
a tightly confined situation.
The need to tunnel negates charge repulsion. Charge is negated by the rigid 
confinement of the group of electrons. These packed fermions only possess spin 
and are now called spinons.

see
http://phys.org/news200828132.html

In LENR+ systems, one dimensional nano wire is what causes electon 
fractionalization. 
Also see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractionalization

http://arxiv.org/abs/0911.1782
Fractionalization in Superconductor Josephson Junction Arrays Hinged by Quantum 
Spin Hall edges
Abstract
In this paper we study a novel superconductor-ferromagnet-superconductor 
(SC-FM-SC) Josephson junction array deposited on top of a two-dimensional 
quantum spin Hall (QSH) insulator. The existence of Majorana bound states at 
the interface between SC and FM gives rise to charge-e tunneling, in addition 
to the usual charge-2e Cooper pair tunneling, between neighboring 
superconductor islands. Moreover, because Majorana fermions encode the 
information of charge number parity, an exact Z_2 gauge structure naturally 
emerges and leads to many new insulating phases, including a deconfined phase 
where electrons fractionalize into charge-e bosons and topological defects. A 
new superconductor-insulator transition has also been found.

The source of all these electrons is dipole motion in the 5 micron 
micro-particle that Rossi invented. This particle is the key to LENR and is 
sized to be resonant with the black body 400C operating temperature of the 
reactor. The dipole vibration caused by the ambient temperature of the reactor 
produces maximum dipole electron oscillation in the terahertz range that 
constrain the electron current to the surface of the micro particle through the 
skin effect. This electron motion is an alternating current that flows back and 
forth across the micro-particle to polarize charge. But these micro particles 
are also coated with billions of nanowires. The nanowire provides a 1 
dimensional superconducting path for the dipole current to accumulate at the 
tip of  each and every nanowire. This super current accumulates electrons at 
the nanowire tips in the fractional mega amp range.
Nanowire coating on the surface of the micro-particle is a critical power 
concentration mechanism and is all important.   This nanowire power 
concentration is what makes LENR+ go.
Why does Surface plasmon polaritons (SPP) have the potential for over unity? 
The extreme curvature at the tips of nanowire produces a vortex of SPPs to 
develop when heat photons become entangled with these electrons through Fano 
resonance and whispering gallery wave effects. The boson nature of the SPP 
makes possible extreme concentration of an EMF soliton because the Pauli 
exclusion principle no longer applies to them. This soliton produces an huge 
anapole magnetic field that gets strong enough to produce pions through vacuum 
breakdown. These magnetically catalyzed pions disrupt nuclear structure of the 
hydrogen.
Hydrogen Rydberg matter is attracted to these nanowire tips that further 
increase the EMF power application because of the extreme curvature related to 
the very small size of these nanowire tips.
Larger nanoparticles also amplify the EMF concentration of the vortex formed at 
and around the tips of the wire in a zero loss dark mode energy transfer 
mechanism. 
 
There is a positive feedback mechanism that takes the gamma energy from the 
nuclear fusion of hydrogen present in the Rydberg crystals and adds that to the 
energy content of the vortex based soliton at the tips of the nanowire using 
the strong coupling of the magnetic force fields.  This optical nano-cavity 
down shifts this gamma energy into the extreme ultraviolet range and through 
power reincorporation makes the amplitude of the SPP soliton and the associated 
magnetic field produced by the soliton even stronger over time.
 






On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Alain Sepeda <[email protected]> wrote:

what is shocking me, is that activist or deniers, convinced or not, most people 
will again and again discuss whether the theory allow it, whether it is 
possible...
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>No need to ask the permission to theory for LENR to exist, since it happens.
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>nobody challenge the evidence...
>they talk of theory....
>exhausting.
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>2014-06-11 19:39 GMT+02:00 Lennart Thornros <[email protected]>:
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>Alain I think the link you provided has a lot of value. 
>>The reasons are many.  There are many clarifications of what is the current 
>>status of LENR is in a nutshell.
>>1. There is no denial of that something happens when certain parameters are 
>>engaged some certain way, which produce more energy than what can be 
>>explained with current thermodynamic laws.
>>2. We do not know what is happening and where the science will need a 
>>modification.
>>3. We do not know if even the ecat is capable of producing a COP large enough 
>>that useful energy (I.E electricity) can be extracted for a long period of 
>>time - reliable. (Maybe changing soon - hope so.)
>>4. Scientists will discuss theoretical possibilities for a long time forward 
>>and an increasing number of scientists will be engaged if a viable commercial 
>>product is offered to the market. One day someone will provide an explanation 
>>and       perhaps receive a Nobel prize or at least receive well deserved 
>>accolade. 
>>5. Regardless of 4 above as soon as a commercial product is available we will 
>>see many competing products many with the Ecat concept and others with 
>>competing concepts.
>>6. It is clear to me that immediately we reach the critical point 
>>(commercialization), we will enter a period, which in its own way might be as 
>>important for the future development of LENR as is the reasons to find the 
>>theories behind it. The reasons for that i,s many interests are now going to 
>>collide. I do not think that any government conspiracy will be an issue for 
>>reasons I am happy to give later. However, I am sure that established 
>>businesses - particularly energy companies, which can see the of their 
>>business model - will be key players.
>>
>>
>>I know that was a lot of words to reach a point obvious to most people here. 
>>My concern is that if we let the big and mighty and very resourceful energy 
>>companies take over they will work this entirely as it fits their agenda. 
>>Implementation will happen as is best for the change over of those large 
>>entities - as they are too big to fail they will allowed that by the 
>>government (see GM). I know that many people in Vortex wants to see greener 
>>earth and a better planet - soon. I think that it is most important to make 
>>sure there is an adequate business model to take care of the opportunity, 
>>which a successful LENR  could provide. The problem is that the window of 
>>opportunity will be small. I will stop here with saying that in short that 
>>means to change to a more flexible format (business model) with very small 
>>footprint but high flexibility and speed. Henry Ford's influence gave us big 
>>and self sufficient companies with stability to survive without any
 concern about the outside factors. Now we cannot be away from outside factors 
even for a minute or when asleep (Cellphone) so we need a format that mirrors 
our time and the product of the future.
>>
>>
>>Best Regards ,
>>Lennart Thornros
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>>
>>www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com 
>>
>>[email protected]
>>+1 916 436 1899
>>202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648
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>>“Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment 
>>to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM
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>>On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:08 AM, Alain Sepeda <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/83658-low-energy-nuclear-reactions-cold-fusion-thread-hijack-split/
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>>>If serious people with good reference can participate
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