The lack of google results concerning the value of the binding energy of a
diproton is noteworthy. In fact I couldn't find any value.
Can anyone?

Harry


On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:

>                 From: [email protected]
>
>                 … that D/H is a long time well known artifact, that
> newcommers and skeptics rediscover regularly because they don't have read
> all….Can someone more competent check if my arguments/interpretation are
> good ?
>
> If you can overlook my incompetence for a while, here are a few comments
> against the completely bogus argument of an exchange reaction in LENR.
>
> 1)      Exchange heating is a red herring for many reasons, and is
> emblematic of the shallowness of skeptics who grasp at straws to avoid the
> big issues.
> 2)      Most experiments use either D or H and not both together. Exchange
> heating, to be significant, would involve both together in relatively equal
> proportions
> 3)      Exchange heating is typically a one-time event. After a few hours
> it
> is over and of no further significance. LENR experiments continue for
> months.
> 4)      Exchange heating is chemical energy, but if LENR does involves a
> mechanism to make a chemical route repeatable in such a way as to be
> gainful
> and avoid (3) above, who cares?
> 5)      The strategy of some skeptics has been to suggest a chemical
> pathway, overlook the long-term gain, and yet maintain that because a
> chemical pathway exists, this reaction can’t be nuclear nor gainful. But
> that is a logical fallacy.
> 6)      In fact, a gainful chemical pathway is preferable, if it exists is
> a
> compound process, like the Mizuno findings. This preference is one of
> several logical fallacies which skeptics are falling into.
> 7)      In short, one cannot disparage the gain of LENR by simply finding a
> chemical pathway. The long-term gain itself, when proved, negates
> exchange-heating as the only input, and indeed suggests that a chemical
> pathway is part of the nuclear process. To wit:
> 8)      If Mizuno has been correct all along, with his recent finding at
> MIT
> that D is being converted into H to produce gain, then this explains some
> of
> the unusual dynamics which have been completely missed by others and
> considered to be an exchange reaction.
> 9)      If D is being converted into H, then it would look to the skeptic
> like an exchange reaction, and that would be their knee-jerk criticism.
> 10)     The bottom line is that the only way to counter the skeptics is
> with
> good data, presented openly.
> 11)     Mizuno’s recent MIT presentation of good data was such an example
> which may have opened up a facet of LENR which was overlooked for
> twenty-plus years because even the cold-fusion advocates could not explain
> how D converts to H gainfully. We still cannot, but we are finally seeing
> glimpses.
> 12)     It is not out of the question that “deuterium fission” possibly
> involving a new hype of positron “decay” - in order to effectively convert
> the deuteron to two protons, has been a part of cold fusion from the early
> days, which was ignored by everyone for this reason:
>
> QUOTE: from old physics textbook:
>
> Thus, although it is theoretically possible to observe a fourth mode of
> beta
> decay corresponding to the capture of a positron, this reaction does not
> occur in nature.
>
> This could be wrong. In fact, in textbooks of the future, this paragraph
> could eventually read something like this: beta decay corresponding to the
> capture of a positron was not documented in nature until the advent of LENR
>
> Jones
>
>

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