Dave--
Your analysis of my comment is close. I would add that the alphas are short-lived virtual particles that have a lifetime to short to measure, and that their high spin energy is dealt out in small quanta during their virtual lifetime to real particles and nuclei that are also aligned and anti-aligned with the local magnetic field and accept one or more quanta of spin energy (spin) as the virtual alphas become real alphas. This all happens in a supra QM system like that suggested by Axil. As discussed several months ago, I believe the coupled QM system is larger than normal in the hot fusion context and different, unknown or unappreciated ,quantum effects and coupling is occurring, made possible by the nano system engineering and magnetic controls on the Pd-H(D) lattice. I consider the grains of Pd-H(D) form large QM coupled systems. The spectrum of phonic (vibrations) energy levels in the crystal structure make the spin transfers possible. Too hot the coupling does not occur, too cold is also a negative condition. Bob Sent from Windows Mail From: David Roberson Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 9:16 AM To: [email protected] Interestingconcept Bob. Are you taking into account that the angular momentum can balance out to zero by a pair of alphas but that the angular energy still remains? At least that is true with classic systems. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Bob Cook <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Jul 12, 2014 2:32 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Dynamic nuclear polarization Dave-- You noted the following: >>Plenty of energy can be deposited by alpha radiation into the structure. >>Keeping that under control without generating gammas is quite a trick. And, >>what other nuclear ash should we be seeing?<< If the alphas are formed two at a time at an excited state of high angular momentum spin energy, each with its J vector pointing in the opposite direction in the ambient magnetic field and within the same NAE or super QM system, it would seem to be possible to collapse to a ground state of 0 spin and angular momentum. The reaction would conserveangular momentum on the way to 0 with small quanta transfers to other particles in the super QM system--electrons and protons--with subsequent decay of each via phonon coupling to the lattice. T he excited spin state of each alpha would be such as to match the mass decrement associated with the D,D “fusion” reaction. The thermal spectrum would be such as to provide resonance for the spin phonon coupling. Transitions would occur at an energy quanta associated with one spin quanta. The number of particles taking part in the NAE would be large--2x the J quantum number of an excited a[pha particle. If the temperature was to high the phonon coupling would not be possible. Too cold would not work either. This could be called the Goldilocks spin dance effect. Bob Sent from Windows Mail From: David Roberson Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:31 AM To: [email protected] When I take a step back I realize that it appears like a miracle for the energy to always come out in small fractions of the total available. I have to ask whether or not this unusual situation may be related to the conditions upon which the reaction occurs. Is anyone aware of an experiment that actually involves fusion of D x D at low temperatures while the radiation is monitored? We do have data describing what is released at very high kinetic energies, but is there a threshold below which our preferred path may be exclusive? I suppose the closest analogy would be muon fusion. If I recall, that pretty much matches what is emitted under hot fusion conditions. Perhaps your point is valid and there is zero chance that D x D fusion is taking place directly. If true, some sneak path is being followed and it is common for alpha radiation to be generated in nuclear reactions. Plenty of energy can be deposited by alpha radiation into the structure. Keeping that under control without generating gammas is quite a trick. And, what other nuclear ash should we be seeing? I hope that Rossi and the future report from the long term experiment will help to answer many of our questions. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jones Beene <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Jul 11, 2014 2:19 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Dynamic nuclear polarization From: David Roberson I think Bob is hoping that energy can be taken away in smaller chunks and that is what I would want to see as well….Has anyone identified exactly where the large MeV energy from a D x D fusion is stored? It remains in place for a short duration until released. Perhaps it can be taken in many portions instead of one dangerous gamma. Dave, Once again, the relevant question is not whether energy can be released piecemeal, in many small undetectable portions. We can assume that it can. The relevant question is this: can a new and previously unknown mechanism accomplish this incredible feat 100% of the time, to the complete exclusion of the known mechanism? Clearly – that is most unlikely. The 23 MeV would need to come out in packets of no more than about 6 keV each. Anything above this level would show up on the kind of meters which have been used for many years, and which have already proved that strong radiation above background level is seldom seen. Think about it. That lack of any radiation signature in most experiments of this kind means the large amount of energy (from the formative alpha particle) comes out in at least 4,000 individual packets, none of which can ever be larger than what is detectable. And furthermore, never ever do we see the “known release mechanism” of standard physics. If true, this proposition is moving towards an “intelligent” release of radiation, in which packets must be monitored and rejected if they are too energetic. That kind of control is absurd, of course, but it highlights the larger absurdity of suggesting that this reaction must involve the fusion of deuterons to helium with no gamma signature. There are better alternatives. Jones
