Axil, I agree but leave open the door for hybrid systems like Arata used to pressurize an inner reactor and cause h2 bubbles to treat the lattice like a membrane. I don’t want to give up on wet cell or at least submerged reactors for the inherent safety and thermal transfer rate they provide. IMHO a low cost mass produced end item will need to embrace both plasma and wet cell embodiment. I predict a many layered Pem like device separated by nano dielectrics where plasma of Rydberg gas atoms form at the boundaries with the whole device suspended in a canister of heated liquid and connected to a thermal transfer /load to extract the energy. Perhaps your idea of microwave retardation of the anomaly could allow the inner device to be constructed closer to runaway – it would certainly allow for a faster control loop, that will give wet cells a better chance of fruition. Biggest issue would be keeping a super catalyst once constructed always retarded until thermally loaded and then bringing the load and the activity up evenly enough to still maintain that head of the pin balance between runaway and stalling – although stalling might be easier to overcome with a heating element or other stimulation if you know you can use microwave energy to stop the runaway condition. Fran
From: Axil Axil [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 12:42 PM To: vortex-l Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:RE: Hydrofill and LaNi5 I doubt that nickel will work in electrolysis because the water will keep the temperature of the nickel below both the Curie and the Debye temperatures, Palladium is paramagnetic an does not have a curie temperature and therefore able to handle a low temperature reaction range as occurs in electrolysis. In a hot hydrogen gas envelope, the temperature of nickel can be pushed over these two critical temperatures. This higher temperature range will allow both magnetic and phonon processes to operate at optimum capabilities. Both these capabilities are essential in LENR. On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Jack Cole <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Does anyone know of any very convincing studies involving nickel and electrolysis? I exclude from this Brillouin energy, which we will need to see some confirmation from SRI. There is not much. Patterson's work was poorly documented. Mills has made many claims but there has been little follow through, and not much convincing proof other than Thermocore: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/GernertNnascenthyd.pdf In my opinion, the best Ni-CF proof is the ELFORSK study of Rossi's device. That isn't much to go on. I hope their next study is more convincing. I expect it will be. - Jed
