Dear Alain,

A lot of things have happened in the first heroic months after the F&P event
see please my paper:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2011/03/my-cold-fusion-history-i.html

Initially enthusiasm was dominant, then many teams failed to reproduce thr
effect- excess heat and neutrons- neutrons in the F&P paper was a costy
error.converting the Hot Fusion community in enemies- both experiments and
theoretical dogma has contributed to this enmity.
However the general experimental situation was bad and the explanation:
smart people obtain positive results, those who obtain negative (null)
results
are not smart and make errors has not contributed to the popularity of CF.
 It was  not recognized that CF systems have some inbonr troubles.
I well remember discussions with Douglas Morrison- a  CF friend initially
converted in enemy and Heinz Gerrischer - friendly but far from being
optimist re the future.

The memeplexes nominated by you, could have played a background role
But there were no many doomers illo tempore. (I belong probably to the
 "progress
cornucopian technology start-trek optimism humanis" memeplex" see what I
wrote as Yves Henry Prum.

It is painfully true that CF/LENR is too complex a matter to be let to
physicists
alone; or even to scientists alone because only engineering, deep, well
thought changes in the reactants can solve the reliability and development
problems.

I think taht using forced analogies and false associations we cannot help
LENR because it is a specific case (as all other) it differs from the early
history of aviation, or of transistors, it has nothing to learn from
homoepathic medicine or from many other fields that had been or are in
trouble.

LENR has to solve its problems by new ideas.

Peter


On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Alain Sepeda <[email protected]>
wrote:

> as a techwatch having seen what happen in LENR, pseudo-medicine, nocebo
> spreading, green fashion and fears, climate debate I have observed
> something that is named "memeplex".
>
> I feel now that in 1989 LENR was the subject of a battle between the 21th
> century "neomalthusian doomer post-industrial postnormal-science
> naturalist" memeplex and the 19th century "progress cornucopian technology
> start-trek optimism humanis" memeplex that bring us to the 1960s.
>
> it was much more uncertain that I imagined and there was a real support of
> the cirnucopian dream... a serie of errors make tha ballance fall agains
> F&P, because they hide data, they did not defend their position is some key
> conferences, because physicist were incompetent in calorimetry yet too
> powerful, because seaborg launched ERAB panel with a mix of physicist lack
> of imagination and high level of political sense.
> would seaborg be in vacation, F&P present at some conferences, some
> semiconductor experts or chemist in key place in the DoE, it would have
> fallen in the other side...
>
> media, authors, sci society and science comics just locked the result of
> the coin toggling.
>
> today we can see that the memeplex of doom is extremely dominant to the
> point that medicine discovered nocebo in therapeutical studies, and laws
> are voted to protect diagnosticated depressive from unicorn allergy.
>
>
> 2014-07-18 21:02 GMT+02:00 Axil Axil <[email protected]>:
>
>  Dear Peter,
>>
>> I believe that the meme of LENR is more consequential than we can
>> possibly now imagine.
>>
>> Our currently held widest hopes for LENR are just the wave drenched tip
>> of a very big iceberg which lay far below our current understanding,
>> lucking just under the icy ocean of our current awareness.
>>
>> Let me now convey the full magnitude of power of the LENR meme. If LENR
>> is the source of Dark Energy and Dark Matter, one day in our future when we
>> fully understand how to control LENR, we may be able to build galleries to
>> fit our needs, to reposition galactic clusters to suite are whims;
>> humankind my one day have the power to stop the expansion of the universe
>> in places that we may desire. All this power lies in the full embrace of
>> the LENR dream.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My dear Friends,
>>>
>>> I have just now published:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2014/07/the-vuca-world-of-lenr-how-long-it-will.html
>>>
>>> History of LENR will decide if i was too optimist or, on the contrary...
>>> However I have decided to tell you sincerely everything I think, taking
>>> all the risks.
>>> We all have to develop active VUCA awareness.
>>>
>>> yours faithfully,
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>>> Cluj, Romania
>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

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