On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 2:59 AM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear Alain, > > A lot of things have happened in the first heroic months after the F&P > event > see please my paper: > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2011/03/my-cold-fusion-history-i.html > > Initially enthusiasm was dominant, then many teams failed to reproduce thr > effect- excess heat and neutrons- neutrons in the F&P paper was a costy > error.converting the Hot Fusion community in enemies- both experiments and > theoretical dogma has contributed to this enmity. > However the general experimental situation was bad and the explanation: > smart people obtain positive results, those who obtain negative (null) > results > are not smart and make errors has not contributed to the popularity of CF. > It was not recognized that CF systems have some inbonr troubles. > I well remember discussions with Douglas Morrison- a CF friend initially > converted in enemy and Heinz Gerrischer - friendly but far from being > optimist re the future. > > The memeplexes nominated by you, could have played a background role > But there were no many doomers illo tempore. (I belong probably to the > "progress > cornucopian technology start-trek optimism humanis" memeplex" see what I > wrote as Yves Henry Prum. > > It is painfully true that CF/LENR is too complex a matter to be let to > physicists > alone; or even to scientists alone because only engineering, deep, well > thought changes in the reactants can solve the reliability and development > problems. > > I think taht using forced analogies and false associations we cannot help > LENR because it is a specific case (as all other) it differs from the early > history of aviation, or of transistors, it has nothing to learn from > homoepathic medicine or from many other fields that had been or are in > trouble. > > LENR has to solve its problems by new ideas. > > Peter > > > On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Alain Sepeda <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> as a techwatch having seen what happen in LENR, pseudo-medicine, nocebo >> spreading, green fashion and fears, climate debate I have observed >> something that is named "memeplex". >> >> I feel now that in 1989 LENR was the subject of a battle between the 21th >> century "neomalthusian doomer post-industrial postnormal-science >> naturalist" memeplex and the 19th century "progress cornucopian technology >> start-trek optimism humanis" memeplex that bring us to the 1960s. >> >> it was much more uncertain that I imagined and there was a real support >> of the cirnucopian dream... a serie of errors make tha ballance fall agains >> F&P, because they hide data, they did not defend their position is some key >> conferences, because physicist were incompetent in calorimetry yet too >> powerful, because seaborg launched ERAB panel with a mix of physicist lack >> of imagination and high level of political sense. >> would seaborg be in vacation, F&P present at some conferences, some >> semiconductor experts or chemist in key place in the DoE, it would have >> fallen in the other side... >> >> media, authors, sci society and science comics just locked the result of >> the coin toggling. >> >> today we can see that the memeplex of doom is extremely dominant to the >> point that medicine discovered nocebo in therapeutical studies, and laws >> are voted to protect diagnosticated depressive from unicorn allergy. >> >> >> 2014-07-18 21:02 GMT+02:00 Axil Axil <[email protected]>: >> >> Dear Peter, >>> >>> I believe that the meme of LENR is more consequential than we can >>> possibly now imagine. >>> >>> Our currently held widest hopes for LENR are just the wave drenched tip >>> of a very big iceberg which lay far below our current understanding, >>> lucking just under the icy ocean of our current awareness. >>> >>> Let me now convey the full magnitude of power of the LENR meme. If LENR >>> is the source of Dark Energy and Dark Matter, one day in our future when we >>> fully understand how to control LENR, we may be able to build galleries to >>> fit our needs, to reposition galactic clusters to suite are whims; >>> humankind my one day have the power to stop the expansion of the universe >>> in places that we may desire. All this power lies in the full embrace of >>> the LENR dream. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> My dear Friends, >>>> >>>> I have just now published: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2014/07/the-vuca-world-of-lenr-how-long-it-will.html >>>> >>>> History of LENR will decide if i was too optimist or, on the contrary... >>>> However I have decided to tell you sincerely everything I think, taking >>>> all the risks. >>>> We all have to develop active VUCA awareness. >>>> >>>> yours faithfully, >>>> >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Peter Gluck >>>> Cluj, Romania >>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >>>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Dr. Peter Gluck > Cluj, Romania > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >
