To Eric's discussion of downconversion ...

When you speak of the plasma fusion output channels, I like to think of it
in a Bohr-sian way.  Presuming plasma, you have isolated deuterium nuclei,
with each nucleus spinning around random vectors.  When a pair approaches
with a trajectory alignment that the collision will result in fusion, the
relative rotation between the nuclei is still random.  The strong force is
like fly paper - it is so short range (fraction of a nucleon diameter), you
have to essentially "touch" before sticking.  So you end up with 3
possibilities of this close approach:  1) proton is closest and hits and
sticks first, 2) neutron is closest and hits and sticks first, and 3) the
proton and neutron hit just right so that they both hit at the same time
and stick in an interlocking fashion.  When 1) happens, a neutron is
released and you get 3He.  When 2 happens, a proton is released and you get
tritium, and when 3) happens you get 4He and a gamma.  This would predict
that 1) and 2) would be fairly common and 3) would be very rare.  However,
because of the Coulomb field, as the deuterium nuclei approach each other,
it would push the protons apart, making the neutrons more likely to face
each other, but this only happens at the last minute.  Because of this, 2)
may be slightly more favored.  I don't like to think of this plasma fusion
as a black box wherein two nuclei collide and through some magic this set
of statistical outcomes emerges.  Once you start thinking about why these
channels emerge, you can begin to think about why LENR leads to its own
output channels.

Downshifting reminds me of subharmonic conversion since I come from an EE
background.  You cannot get subharmonic conversion without coupling to a
very strong nonlinearity.  Even then, the output resonance must be
harmonically matched to the input frequency for any kind of efficiency.
 When everything is tuned up perfectly, and with a very strong
nonlinearity, you get fairly efficient conversion, but that may mean 20-40%.

One of the things about Hagelstein's proposition that bothers me is that
the excited nucleus does not want to stay excited for very long - it decays
in an incredibly short time.  Suppose you are de-exciting a dd* that wants
to release 24 MeV of energy with a set of phonons at 10THz.  The frequency
difference is 24MeV=5.8e21Hz compared to 10THz=1E13Hz or a ratio of 5.8E8.
 If you are taking the energy away with a 5.8E8x lower frequency phonon, it
seems like it would take 5.8E8x as long to extract the energy.  Can an
excited nucleus be coerced into waiting to burp that long?  It seems like
it would require extreme coupling between the excited nucleus and the
lattice for that to happen - much more coupling than the exchange coupling
of the electronic lattice can provide.

Axil has been talking about interacting waves ...

My EE training also tells me that waves are 2 ships that cross in the night
and neither knows that the other is there and neither affects the other
UNLESS there is the presence of a nonlinear medium that they both traverse
simultaneously.  I am not saying that the vacuum is perfectly linear, but
by most of our experience in the macro world, the vacuum is nearly
perfectly linear; otherwise radio would not work as we know it.  As we get
to nuclear scales, this may be different.  Also note that solitons are
solutions to a nonlinear equation - it seems that the nonlinearity must be
present for solitons to propagate.  If it is the case that the "wave"
nature of elementary particles is more soliton-like, it may be indicating
that the vacuum is not linear at the scales of elementary particles.  Once
the nonlinearity is invoked at that scale, there may be wave-to-wave
coupling.

Bob Higgins

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