IMHO, the transmutation of D into H is a minor endothermic side reaction
that uses energy from the primary nickel hydrogen reaction which is gainful
on the average.

Hydrogen serves as a plasmonic dielectric and is not always the primary
source involved in the production of energy.


On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote:

> Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> Mizuno/Yoshino was basically a 75 watt gain experiment that saw gain from
>> start to end, and ended after 30 days due to fuel depletion.
>>
>
> I doubt the fuel was depleted. I realize you say the mass 4 species are
> gone, but that does not mean they are used up in the reaction. They might
> be absorbed by the metal preferentially, or leaked out. Helium leaks more
> easily than just about any other gas. It would take an incredibly small
> amount of fuel for it to be depleted after only 100 MJ. I doubt anyone
> could measure out such a tiny amount of hydrogen (or deuterium), and even
> if they did the inside of the cell would be a high vacuum -- which this one
> is not. It is 10 to 80 Pa.
>
> Deuterium fusion yields 345 million megajoules per kilogram, so 100 MJ
> would be approximately 0.29 milligrams of deuterium. I do not think you can
> add this much and no more deuterium gas into a cell. I realize the energy
> from a mixture of hydrogen and deuterium may be different but it is still
> milligrams.
>
>
>
>>  Average power gain was apparently a factor of 70-75 times more than
>> Roulette, but it ran for far less time, so net gain was less.
>>
>
> By "gain" do you mean the output to input ratio? Mizuno's is no better
> than Roulette's. They both measured heat after death, with an infinite
> ratio.
>
>
>
>> If Roulette (run 3 and run 4) had been considered to be the “hero”
>> results for LENR cold fusion prior to the MIT presentation of Yoshino,
>> there is no doubt that it does not compare favorably now.
>>
>
> Yes, there as has been some progress since 1996.
>
>
>
>>  BTW helium is not mentioned in Roulette and was not found in Mizuno.
>>
>
> I do not know whether they measured helium in France. Those cells may not
> have been sufficiently gas tight to contain it.
>
> - Jed
>
>

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