If you have H+ and H-, wouldn't they have an attraction force between themselves? Sounds like Lochons.
Lochon Catalyzed D-D Fusion in Deuterated Palladium in the Solid State K. P. Sinha <http://arxiv.org/find/physics/1/au:+Sinha_K/0/1/0/all/0/1>, A. Meulenberg <http://arxiv.org/find/physics/1/au:+Meulenberg_A/0/1/0/all/0/1> (Submitted on 4 May 2007) Lochons (local charged bosons or local electron pairs) can form on D+ to give D- (bosonic ions) in Palladium Deuteride in the solid state. Such entities will occur at special sites or in linear channel owing to strong electron-phonon interaction or due to potential inversion on metallic electrodes. These lochons can catalyze D- - D+ fusion as a consequence of internal conversion leading to the formation of He-4 plus production of energy (Q=23.8 MeV) which is carried by the alpha particle and the ejected electron-pair. The reaction rate for this fusion process is calculated. Comments: 3 pages: see also arXiv:cond-mat/0603213 <http://arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0603213> (Current Science, Vol. 91, No. 7, pp. 907-912, 10/10/06) Accepted for publication: National Academy of Science (India) Letters Subjects: General Physics (physics.gen-ph) Journal reference: National Academy of Science (India) Letters, Vol.30, No. 7&8, 2007 Cite as: arXiv:0705.0595 <http://arxiv.org/abs/0705.0595> [physics.gen-ph] (or arXiv:0705.0595v1 <http://arxiv.org/abs/0705.0595v1> [physics.gen-ph] for this version) Submission history From: Andrew Meulenberg Jr. [view email <https://arxiv.org/show-email/b63e0b65/0705.0595>] *[v1]* Fri, 4 May 2007 11:02:23 GMT (123kb) On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Kevin O'Malley <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Regarding the excerpt from the patent. >> >> *More in detail, during the process of orbital capture, H- ions can lose >> its own couple of electrons and form protons 1H+. A first fraction of the >> protons 1H+ is subjected to direct nuclear capture reactions by the nuclei >> of the same atoms of the clusters in which the orbital capture has >> occurred, while a second fraction of the protons 1H+ can be expelled by >> Coulomb repulsion from the nucleus of the metal atom where the orbital >> capture has taken place. The expelled protons have an energy that can be >> determined and characterised. For instance, in the case of Nickel, this >> energy is about 6.7 MeV, as detected by a Wilson chamber, on the basis of >> Bethe's equation. A part of the protons of the second portion, which does >> not react with other nuclei of the primary material, can leave the latter >> and interact with a material adapted to give rise to proton- dependent >> reactions, if this is present. * >> >> A cooper pair of protons enters the transition metal nucleus, one >> is captured an the other is expelled carrying 6.7 MeV which is the excess >> binding energy. >> >> The proton pair has a spin of zero. which is consistent with magnetic >> interaction with protons. The same magnetic glue has just be found to >> produce cooper pairs of electrons in superconductors is found in Ni/H. The >> Magnetic field in the Ni/H reaction is far stronger than can be found in >> superconductors so there is no high temperature falloff. >> >> I would strongly suspect that the expelled proton is not seen when the >> reactor is in operation. Such an experimental detail should not appear in >> the patent because it is not part of the reaction mechanism of an >> operational reactor. The 6.7 MeV would be thermalized by BEC formation in >> the operational reactor, IMHO. >> >> To see the 6.7 MeV, the nickel must be removed from the influence of the >> BEC and placed in a cloud chamber after a considerable amount of time. >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Ron Kita <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Greetings All, >>> >>> I just saw this on Alain Coetmeur s Scoop.it website. >>> >>> Not sure IF it made it to Vortex.....yet: >>> http://www.scoop.it/t/lenr-revolution-in-process-cold-fusion >>> >>> Ad astra, >>> Ron >>> >>> >>> >> >

