A google search for "relative Luttinger Liquid" produces only 1 hit, a PhD thesis worth looking at, perhaps applicable to LENR.
Coulomb Drag in Vertically-Integrated One-Dimensional Quantum Wires http://gervaislab.mcgill.ca/Laroche_PhD_Thesis.pdf On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Kevin O'Malley <[email protected]> wrote: > Okay, then that introduces an interesting concept that I have not seen in > the literature. I keep seeing it postulated here on Vortex that there's a > relativity-based theory that explains it. I do not understand the theory > so I haven't spent the cycles to click through and figure it out. > > But here we have the possibility of a "relative" Luttinger Liquid. I was > thinking that the 1 dimensional Luttinger Liquid pushes into a 1D BEC at > certain ABSOLUTE temperatures. But what if Luttinger Liquids form at > RELATIVE temperatures? Here in this case, it would be when a spark rapidly > declines from 20,000C down to 10,000C. Even though the ABSolute > temperature is momentarily high, the field of matter has been exposed to a > RELative rapid temperature decrease. This adds a further complication to > the formation of Luttinger Liquids and BECs. > > I have no idea how to pursue if anyone has investigated this. > > > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Cools is a relative term. The temperature of a spark can reach about >> 20,000C. For example, Palladium vaporizes above 3000C so nanoparticle of >> palladium will start to form just under that very high temperature. Water >> will always produce nanoparticles when exposed to a spark. >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Kevin O'Malley <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> A spark produces a plasma, whenever a plasma cools as it must >>>> eventually do, at a minimum, it produces nanoparticles out of the vaporized >>>> electrode material that carried the spark.. >>>> >>> ***When a plasma COOLs???? That is utterly significant. It is only >>> under "relatively cool" conditions that a BEC forms. So when the plasma >>> cools, it forms a (linear) BEC, atoms come together and fuse sometimes and >>> when they do, by the nature of BECs, their output energy is dissipated by >>> 1/N the number of atoms involved in the BEC. >>> >>> On top of that, the spark environment becomes a (linear) accelerator, >>> pushing particles such as protons straight into the opposing walls of the >>> crack of the metal matrix, thereby generating transmutations, fission, >>> nuclear heat from other products. Perhaps it's even an asymmetrical thrust >>> capacitor, as described upthread. Think about it: A v-shaped "crack" is >>> very similar to a capacitor in certain dimensions, and at the extremes of >>> those dimensions you'd see very different behavior. >>> >>> Ed Storms wanted to move the discussion out from the interior of metal >>> hydrydes into the surface "where the laws of conservation of energy no >>> longer apply". But cracks are a weak representation of "laws of Physics" >>> no longer applying: The sparks ACROSS such cracks would be a perfect >>> candidate for "weird physics" and "laws of conservation of energy" no >>> longer applying, because plasma physics is incredibly weird to begin with. >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 12:24 AM, Kevin O'Malley <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/LochakGlowenergyn.pdf >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is what cavitation is producing. These are what Ken Shoulders >>>>>> also produced in spark discharge. Sparks in water always produce >>>>>> cavitation. Only cavitation in water produces gamma because no BEC can >>>>>> be produced. >>>>>> >>>>> ***This strikes me as incredibly important because we've narrowed down >>>>> the focus of discussion to sparks, BECs, gamma ray production and LENR. >>>>> HOW is it that sparks in water always produce cavitation? Can a linear >>>>> BEC >>>>> form in gas simpler than in water? Isn't it possible for a spark to form >>>>> a >>>>> Luttinger Liquid linear BEC? And consider the endpoints of such a >>>>> phenomenon: at each end would be a few microns of solid Ni or Pd >>>>> encapsulating a linear formation of H or D atoms! The reason it's so hard >>>>> to get our heads around it is that there are 2 kinds of phenomena >>>>> connecting to each other: A 1dimensional Luttinger Liquid of atoms >>>>> embedded within a matrix connected to a BEC forming inside of a spark >>>>> across (Ed Storms's utterly important) crack or even just a "sphericule". >>>>> The TRANSITION between these 2 uncommon physical forms is completely >>>>> beyond >>>>> our grasp to describe. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Sparks in a gas do not produce gamma because the spark produces >>>>>> nanoparticle aggregations in which a BEC is carried. >>>>>> >>>>> ***Okay... where do these nanoparticle aggregations come from? I've >>>>> never heard of them before. What are they? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
