Get a life, Lennart

On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Lennart Thornros <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I know Kevin your reasoning is picked froom preschoolers. Sandbox logics.
> I call it and it goes like:"My dad is bigger than yours . . .".
>  On Aug 6, 2014 10:33 PM, "Kevin O'Malley" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Lennart, if you don't want an alligator to snap at you, then stop
>> throwing rocks at him.  Even preschoolers know the wisdom of this.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Lennart Thornros <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Kevin, it is not worth a comment. You are just judgemental. Inhave not
>>> asked you to have an opinion about my capacity, still you think you can
>>> make judgements. Sorry, keep to the subject not to any personal vendetta. I
>>> admit my shortcomings in science although I am from the beginning an
>>> engineer as well.
>>>  On Aug 6, 2014 9:04 PM, "Kevin O'Malley" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Lennart Thornros <[email protected]
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> OK. Kevin, you obviously know more about physics than about
>>>>> management/leadership.
>>>>>
>>>> ***Oh Lennart, you obviously know little about either.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> We had a talk about my subject not long ago.  It did not go very well.
>>>>>
>>>> ***Yes, because you are a poor manager/leader, can't put a solid
>>>> argument together and are basically a follower not a leader.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  I will take my chances in an area I am poorly prepared. Reason I try
>>>>> is because I am confused. I haave some friends who told me that state of
>>>>> matter is not very accurate. Their opinion is that it is an infinite 
>>>>> number
>>>>> of states.
>>>>>
>>>> ***Once again you demonstrate your "leadership" style:  You follow a
>>>> crowd.  Not only that but you did not understand the original contention.
>>>> So you're barking up the wrong tree and you shouldn't be barking in the
>>>> first place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> First of all help me understand what is more accurate.
>>>>> If my friends are correct, then We do not need o look for any new
>>>>> states.
>>>>>
>>>> ***Your friends are not correct.  You THINK we are looking for new
>>>> states, but in reality we are simply trying to nail down what has been
>>>> agreed in science.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe it is worth finding out more about states of matter for reasons
>>>>> beyond LENR and maybe to fully undrstand LENR an understanding of more 
>>>>> hard
>>>>> to describe/understand states is required.
>>>>>
>>>> ***Umm... yeah, but your statement has very little meaning.  Recall my
>>>> prior criticisms of you on this subject and how poorly it reflects on your
>>>> "leadership".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  The whole discussion about different theories is way too adament in
>>>>> my opinion.
>>>>>
>>>> ***You do not know what you are talking about, so your opinion isn't
>>>> worth much.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It seems like if evry theory is having problems to be accepted by a
>>>>> wide group of scientists.
>>>>>
>>>> ***What you don't seem to realize is that the whole field of LENR is
>>>> not accepted by a wide group of scientists.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I think a more humble aproach where taking pieces from all theories
>>>>> would propel the search for a solution forward much faster than the 
>>>>> attempt
>>>>> to disqualify othe theories while lifting ones own up to theology level..
>>>>>
>>>> ***I didn't say that AT ALL.  I don't see how you get that from what I
>>>> wrote.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  What I say is that there might be many forms of LENR.
>>>>>
>>>> ***Okay, nothing controversial here in terms of current LENR
>>>> observations.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> They might be depending on which state of matter they are working in.
>>>>>
>>>> ***POTO.  (Pointing Out The Obvious). But not only that, you are saying
>>>> something DIRECTLY in agreement with my original contention but acting as
>>>> if you're arguing against it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> So why not take the thoughts from Ed Storms, Dr. Mills, W&L, Axil,
>>>>> Jones, etc. and search for the common denominators instead of the reason
>>>>> one is better?
>>>>>
>>>> ***Sounds good to me.  But how you got to the point that you somehow
>>>> thought I was saying something different than this is utterly baffling.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  On Aug 5, 2014 10:38 PM, "Kevin O'Malley" <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you look at the lower right hand diagram on that page, there are
>>>>>> only 4 sates of matter (traditionally):  solid, liquid, gas, and plasma.
>>>>>> Trying to shoehorn LENR theories into these 4 states so far has proven
>>>>>> fruitless, although plasma is a state of matter that I simply do not
>>>>>> understand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is an arc a plasma?  My readings tell me:  sometimes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am confident the final explanation of LENR is going to come from
>>>>>> one of these obstinate states of matter (or perhaps 2 of them).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like relativity theory, it will seem obvious, simple, and yet
>>>>>> mind-numbingly complex all at the same time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  *From:* Kevin O'Malley
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Currently we only have 5 known states of matter:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Solid
>>>>>>> Liquid
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Plasma
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bose-Einstein Condensate
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  It would make sense that something as unfathomable as LENR would
>>>>>>> occur as the newest & least understood state of matter….Especially
>>>>>>> when plasma might be involved, and the situation occurs in a very 
>>>>>>> special
>>>>>>> case of Condensed Matter Nuclear Physics. … Are there other states
>>>>>>> of matter being postulated at this point?  Some of the Zero Point
>>>>>>> Energy/Vaccuum/Aether stuff might apply, but it does not hold weight in
>>>>>>> mainstream physics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting point for LENR. One problem is that matter can be partly
>>>>>>> or wholly in another dimension. In fact there is some evidence that
>>>>>>> electrons exist partly in another dimension. If we limit the candidates 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> macro reality (no subatomic species like pentaquarks etc.) then here 
>>>>>>> are a
>>>>>>> few more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dark matter – which can be the same as ZPE, Aether
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neutron matter – the stuff of neutron stars
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PS… after starting this list, it occurred to me that Wiki most
>>>>>>> likely already has such a list, and indeed it can be found here
>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_of_matter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>

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