Kevin I hope you will grow out of the sandbox one day.
On Aug 11, 2014 11:57 PM, "Kevin O'Malley" <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Lennart Thornros <[email protected]>
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>> I do not know that I intended to provoke.
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> ***Weasel words from a weasel.  You know your own intention, but here you
> say "you do not know".  It is your OWN intention, of COURSE you know.  But
> someone from a "strategic leadership" background and thin skin and a record
> right here on this thread is compelled to write like you do.  Weasel.
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>> I do have a technical question about howmany states there are
>> (unanswered).
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> ***What a bunch of horse manure, in light of your previous response.
> Geez, why don't you just give it up?
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>>  How you mix that with the name of my business I cannot understand.
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> ***Yup.  I know you don't understand.  And I know you cannot understand.
> That's why you write in such a ridiculous manner.  Perhaps some day you
> will make some positive contribution to Vortex, one can only hope.
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>> Even more do I think your unqualified, wrongful and mean evaluation of my
>> person is insulting and uncalled for.
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> ***Like I said before, if you don't want the alligator to snap at you,
> quit throwing rocks at him.  Preschoolers know the wisdom of this.
> Evidently, you are not smarter than a preschooler.
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>> I have told you to contact me privately if you have a grudge to settle
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> ***I have no grudge to settle.  Perhaps some day you will learn to be a
> "strategic leader".  But I doubt it.
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>> . I do not think that being the case you just enjoy being judgemental.
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> ***You're so full of bowlsheeite.  You've engaged in judgementalism since
> your first post on this thread, and throughout.  You just like to hide
> behind weasel terms so that no one will call you out.  Once they do, we all
> see what an incredible weasel punk you are.  Why did you start your
> interactions with invective if you didn't want invective to ensue?  Because
> you are a weasel, that's why.
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>> I.suggest you stick to the issues instead of dabble in evalutions you
>> have neither qualifications nor informations to do.
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> ***And I suggest you go back to "strategic followership"... oops, that's
> supposed to be strategic leadership, but with your approach there is no
> discernible difference.
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>> On Aug 10, 2014 7:56 PM, "Kevin O'Malley" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> Lennart:
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>>> Why don't you just leave me alone?  You started out on this thread
>>> intending to provoke, so you've achieved provocation.  Now that you don't
>>> like the result you wanna backtrack.  I get it.  So then back track.  Get
>>> lost.  Go and teach someone about your supposed "strategic leadership"
>>> which is neither strategic nor leadership.
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>>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Lennart Thornros <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> Kevin, l googled you and I can see we life rather close to each other.
>>>> I cannot remember ever doing any busines with you. If you find yourself
>>>> holding rudges , vortex is hardly the place to sttlethat. If you have any
>>>> hard feeloings , please address me via email and or telephone. I ensure you
>>>> that we can find a satisfactory answer or solution. If you rather keep
>>>> whatever feelings you have please keep them out of vortex. I personally
>>>> think one need to clear the airand not go around holdinggrudges, which in
>>>> the long runhurts nobody but yourself. I am as I said fine talking about
>>>> your problems whatever they are.
>>>>  On Aug 8, 2014 9:55 PM, "Kevin O'Malley" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>>> I know enough about your life that you need to get one.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Lennart Thornros <[email protected]
>>>>> > wrote:
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>>>>>> Kevin, you know nothing about my life. Even if you did your advice is
>>>>>> the sand box argument. It is totally withour references so as an 
>>>>>> analtyical
>>>>>> engineer you should stay away from such poorly founded arguments. If that
>>>>>> is not enough to motivate your way of behaving, I will give you the
>>>>>> ultimate reason to keep your opinion to yourself: if I have not figured 
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> how to have life at my age I will unlikely be motivated or educated by 
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> floskel.
>>>>>>  On Aug 7, 2014 9:30 PM, "Kevin O'Malley" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Get a life, Lennart
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Lennart Thornros <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know Kevin your reasoning is picked froom preschoolers. Sandbox
>>>>>>>> logics. I call it and it goes like:"My dad is bigger than yours . . .".
>>>>>>>>  On Aug 6, 2014 10:33 PM, "Kevin O'Malley" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> Lennart, if you don't want an alligator to snap at you, then stop
>>>>>>>>> throwing rocks at him.  Even preschoolers know the wisdom of this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Lennart Thornros <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kevin, it is not worth a comment. You are just judgemental.
>>>>>>>>>> Inhave not asked you to have an opinion about my capacity, still you 
>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>> you can make judgements. Sorry, keep to the subject not to any 
>>>>>>>>>> personal
>>>>>>>>>> vendetta. I admit my shortcomings in science although I am from the
>>>>>>>>>> beginning an engineer as well.
>>>>>>>>>>  On Aug 6, 2014 9:04 PM, "Kevin O'Malley" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Lennart Thornros <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK. Kevin, you obviously know more about physics than about
>>>>>>>>>>>> management/leadership.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ***Oh Lennart, you obviously know little about either.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We had a talk about my subject not long ago.  It did not go
>>>>>>>>>>>> very well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ***Yes, because you are a poor manager/leader, can't put a solid
>>>>>>>>>>> argument together and are basically a follower not a leader.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  I will take my chances in an area I am poorly prepared. Reason
>>>>>>>>>>>> I try is because I am confused. I haave some friends who told me 
>>>>>>>>>>>> that state
>>>>>>>>>>>> of matter is not very accurate. Their opinion is that it is an 
>>>>>>>>>>>> infinite
>>>>>>>>>>>> number of states.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ***Once again you demonstrate your "leadership" style:  You
>>>>>>>>>>> follow a crowd.  Not only that but you did not understand the 
>>>>>>>>>>> original
>>>>>>>>>>> contention.  So you're barking up the wrong tree and you shouldn't 
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> barking in the first place.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> First of all help me understand what is more accurate.
>>>>>>>>>>>> If my friends are correct, then We do not need o look for any
>>>>>>>>>>>> new states.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ***Your friends are not correct.  You THINK we are looking for
>>>>>>>>>>> new states, but in reality we are simply trying to nail down what 
>>>>>>>>>>> has been
>>>>>>>>>>> agreed in science.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe it is worth finding out more about states of matter for
>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons beyond LENR and maybe to fully undrstand LENR an 
>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding of
>>>>>>>>>>>> more hard to describe/understand states is required.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ***Umm... yeah, but your statement has very little meaning.
>>>>>>>>>>> Recall my prior criticisms of you on this subject and how poorly it
>>>>>>>>>>> reflects on your "leadership".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  The whole discussion about different theories is way too
>>>>>>>>>>>> adament in my opinion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ***You do not know what you are talking about, so your opinion
>>>>>>>>>>> isn't worth much.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems like if evry theory is having problems to be accepted
>>>>>>>>>>>> by a wide group of scientists.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ***What you don't seem to realize is that the whole field of
>>>>>>>>>>> LENR is not accepted by a wide group of scientists.
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>> I think a more humble aproach where taking pieces from all
>>>>>>>>>>>> theories would propel the search for a solution forward much 
>>>>>>>>>>>> faster than
>>>>>>>>>>>> the attempt to disqualify othe theories while lifting ones own up 
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> theology level..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ***I didn't say that AT ALL.  I don't see how you get that from
>>>>>>>>>>> what I wrote.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  What I say is that there might be many forms of LENR.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ***Okay, nothing controversial here in terms of current LENR
>>>>>>>>>>> observations.
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> They might be depending on which state of matter they are
>>>>>>>>>>>> working in.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ***POTO.  (Pointing Out The Obvious). But not only that, you are
>>>>>>>>>>> saying something DIRECTLY in agreement with my original contention 
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> acting as if you're arguing against it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So why not take the thoughts from Ed Storms, Dr. Mills, W&L,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Axil, Jones, etc. and search for the common denominators instead 
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> reason one is better?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ***Sounds good to me.  But how you got to the point that you
>>>>>>>>>>> somehow thought I was saying something different than this is 
>>>>>>>>>>> utterly
>>>>>>>>>>> baffling.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  On Aug 5, 2014 10:38 PM, "Kevin O'Malley" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you look at the lower right hand diagram on that page,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are only 4 sates of matter (traditionally):  solid, liquid, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gas, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> plasma.  Trying to shoehorn LENR theories into these 4 states so 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> far has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> proven fruitless, although plasma is a state of matter that I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> simply do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is an arc a plasma?  My readings tell me:  sometimes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am confident the final explanation of LENR is going to come
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from one of these obstinate states of matter (or perhaps 2 of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like relativity theory, it will seem obvious, simple, and yet
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mind-numbingly complex all at the same time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Jones Beene <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *From:* Kevin O'Malley
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently we only have 5 known states of matter:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liquid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plasma
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bose-Einstein Condensate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  It would make sense that something as unfathomable as LENR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would occur as the newest & least understood state of matter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ….Especially when plasma might be involved, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> situation occurs in a very special case of Condensed Matter 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nuclear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physics. … Are there other states of matter being postulated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at this point?  Some of the Zero Point Energy/Vaccuum/Aether 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff might
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apply, but it does not hold weight in mainstream physics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting point for LENR. One problem is that matter can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> partly or wholly in another dimension. In fact there is some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electrons exist partly in another dimension. If we limit the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidates to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macro reality (no subatomic species like pentaquarks etc.) then 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here are a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few more.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dark matter – which can be the same as ZPE, Aether
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neutron matter – the stuff of neutron stars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS… after starting this list, it occurred to me that Wiki
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most likely already has such a list, and indeed it can be found 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_of_matter
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