Terry, I agree with your posit, I think this is also how Papp engine may work forming the geometry with plasma layers and trapped gas between, or sonofusion where the collapsing menisci forms the geometry but all these different anomalies being a form of "vacuum engineering" as Puthoff coined it. The spontaneous emission of atoms trapped in a waveguide is a strong clue that microwave energy and wave interference can also create this anomalous environment where wave interference and magnetic containment are substitutes for nano geometry.. It would be interesting for someone to build a reactor inside of an EM drive to see if the effects can be nested with the idea of electrically enhancing and retarding the NAE via microwave technology.. I would guess by this point Shawyer has already experimented with microwave arrays and delay lines to alter the beam steer inside his cavity while recording data to sweep for a sweet spot but a hybrid system where the drive was only being used to enhance an NAE wasn't their focus.. Effectively this would just be a way to concentrate a magnetic field on the NAE. Fran
-----Original Message----- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 6:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Water tractor beams and Bjerknes Maybe this explains how the emdrive provides propulsion reacting with the epo of the Dirac sea, a type of Casimir interference.

