Don't worry Jojo, they will find something that they fear.  Perhaps it will be 
beach erosion or some other detrimental effect that appears when the natural 
wave action is diminished.

Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jojo Iznart <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Aug 20, 2014 12:35 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Solar Collectors' Avian Threat



My wave farms are totally renewable and won't kill things.  It can barely be 
seen from the beach and it is safe for swimmers and to a certain extent safe 
for slow boaters.
 
I wonder what these hyper-environmentalist would object to against my wave 
pumps?
 
 
 
Jojo
 
 
  
----- Original Message ----- 
  
From:   Axil Axil   
  
To: vortex-l 
  
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:48   AM
  
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Solar Collectors' Avian   Threat
  


  
Windmills kill many birds also. Dams kill many fish. Green energy   kills 
things.
  


  
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:31 PM, Lennart Thornros   <[email protected]> 
wrote:
  
    
OK Chem I understand the reaction. I think you are extended the     argument a 
bit. We (the taxpayers) actually built the solar farm. The oil is     way 
different - I knowp we did not build the resourse. Well, I guess you     will 
say we did not build the sun either. You are right but the fractionwe     
harvest even if we cover this planet with solar farms (which I agree with     
would be stupid if nothingelse for the loss of a ll birds) is close to     
nothing. I agree with your point and I think Jojo has a point as well. Why     
not use what we built and paid for? It will kill some birds but in the whole    
 . . . We do not need to build more of them. However we are building fast     
trains (a la Mistral) here in California so  who knows. 2 billions =     pocket 
change for the train project.
    
    
    
On Aug 19, 2014 8:03 PM, "ChemE Stewart" <[email protected]>     wrote:
    
      
I'm speechless...      


      
I was mostly thinking that using JoJo's argument, fossil fuels are       also 
free since they are already there in the ground to use and we can       ignore 
operating and maintenance expenses.
      


      
I was mostly concerned about the costs to recharge/refurbish Jed's       
android robots that wash the mirrors at Ivanpah.  At 375,000 mirrors       and 
1 minute per mirror that is 260 days to wash everything, I hope they       
don't have any dust storms in the desert... They appear very life       like:
      


      
http://www.irexcontracting.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Argus-Contracting-at-Ivanpah-Project1-360x240.jpg

      


      
If they had used real people they would have lots of free avian       protein 
to feed them
      


      


      


      
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Terry Blanton       <[email protected]> wrote:
      
        
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 2:02 PM, ChemE Stewart <[email protected]> wrote:

> Stop making         stuff up, like "illuminati" crap.


It might be a fake         religion; but, it is the world's greatest:

http://io9.com/the-greatest-fake-religion-of-all-time-1622095459

And         the second greatest is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pux7jummtfA

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/weird-news/pastafarian-fights-for-his-right-to-wear-a-colander-on-his-head-in-driving-licence-photo-9673376.html











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