*----* *Kevin O'Malley wrote:* *Science today tells us that someone travelling the speed of light (the twin paradox) for a year would return to his twin back on earth, and the twin would have aged 100 years. Is God restricted to the speed of light? NO WAY. He no doubt travels faster than that, and so for him to spend a day on creation would look like billions of years to an observer on earth. All verified science.*
*Think about it.* Kevin. Thank you for that. People forget how absurd the Universe is without the need to references to religion. Effects like special relativity really gives one a profound concept of what it would be like riding an electron. Or a photon jumping from quantum state of an atom to another. It easy to explain spooky action at a distance, when relativistic effects will slow time to zero for the photon leave and a close atom and arriving at a distant one at the same time. At the speed C, to the photon reference frame, it's like the electron of distant atom is right there. From our vantage point it's like that distant atom is light years away. Cheers. On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Jojo Iznart <jojoiznar...@gmail.com> wrote: > The answer to this question is 100 million. > > > It may come as a surprise to many but the Bible may have an answer to this > question. I am answering this not to show how biblically knowledgeable I > am, but to show the skeptic that the Bible has many many answers to many > many difficult questions if one simply takes the time to study it and > evaluate the evidence it presents with an open mind. > > > To try to answer this question - the question of how many Angels can dance > on the head of a pin? I need to lay some groundwork. But before I do > that, let it be clear to everyone that Angles don't dance. That carnal > behavior is beneath them. So, the proper question is - How many Angels can > stand on the head of a pin. > > > 1. First, let's understand that the Bible teaches that our 3.5 > dimensional world (3 space dimensions, plus 1/2 of time dimension - 1/2 > because we can only travel in that dimension 1 way - only towards the > future, we can't move back in time.) - that our 3.5 dimensional world is > but a part of a reality that is composed of maybe up to 10 dimensions. > Paul talks of being taken to the third heaven - this is another place of > existence inaccesible to us mortals. Maimonides, an ancient Jewish > Scholar, believed that we live in a 10-dimensional world only 4 of which > was knowable. John, when describing the New Jerusalem, talks of the > streets of being made of "Pure Gold like clear glass". How can pure gold > be like clear glass other than there is another dimension wherein this pure > opaque gold exists wherein one can see thru it. Jude, when describing > angels talks of how fallen angels left their "habitation", which imply that > they have another type of habitation (Body). Jesus in his ressurection > body was able to pass thru doors and appear and disappear at will, and also > float up to heaven at his ascension. Jesus at the transfiguration was > transformed to a bright and shining form of body. > > Even our latest science tells the same story. There are many scholar who > believe that our reality is but a projection - a hologram, a simulation of > a larger multi-dimensional reality. Doesn't Dawkins talk of a multiverse? > He is reflecting the sentiment of many scholars, who may not necessarily, > and in fact, are not Christians. Doesn't our Latest String Theory talk of > a 10-dimensional Universe? > > So, the point of my first point, is that there is reason to believe from > the Bible as well as from Science that we live in a Universe which may be > up to 10 dimensions. > > Thus, Angels are in fact multi-dimensional creatures. They can come and > go into our dimension, assume any shape they like in our dimension and can > occupy the same space at the same time in our dimension. > > > 2. Second, to begin to answer how many Angels can fit on the head of a > pin, let's examine the broader question of how many Angels there are. > Revelations 5.11 has this to say. As far as I know, this is the only > place in the Bible where the number of Angels is explicitly mentioned. It > says 10 thousand times 10 thousands and thousands of thousands. > > > * Rev 5:11* And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round > about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was > ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; > > > > I don't know what thousands of thousands is, but I do know that 10 > thousand times 10 thousand is 100 million. Hence, the answer to the > question is 100 million Angels can fit on the head of pin. If you count > fallen Angels in the mix, the number would be 150 million because 1/3 of > the Angels followed Satan in the fall leaving behind 2/3 which is 100 > million. > > > > > > Jojo > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Saturday, August 30, 2014 9:56 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]: The Absurdity of Darwinian Evolution. > > > > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Alan Fletcher <a...@well.com> wrote: > >> >> ps Did anyone ever figure out how many angels CAN dance on the head of a >>> pin? >>> >> >> Between one and 30 vigintillion angels. >> http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2576 >> >> >> > about the origin of that question: > > http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1008/did-medieval-scholars-argue-over-how-many-angels-could-dance-on-the-head-of-a-pin > > Harry > >
