Hydrogen will most likely will preferably assume a metastable state in
which  a one dimensional crystalline form of Rydberg matter is surrounded
 by a cloud of many electrons in orbit around a long string like core of
many protons.


On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Bob Higgins <[email protected]>
wrote:

> While Va'vra is recently trying to connect the 511 keV galactic signal
> with DDL hydrogen, his theory about multi-photon DDL transitions is older.
>  He has been doing work with spark discharge in hydrogen and uses a large
> cylindrical scintillator with an axial hole to look for coincident
> detection of multiple photons, that he thought may add up to 511 keV.
>
> Of course, the 511 keV galactic signal is not Va'vra's observation.  He
> was just citing that with a speculation that DDL hydrogen could be
> implicated.
>
> One of the things that QED analysis may provide a better handle on is how
> DDL transitions might occur.  Meulenberg states that DDL state electrons do
> not have sufficient angular momentum for photon transactions, making it
> difficult to visualize how DDL state transitions occur.  Shrodinger, KG,
> and Dirac really don't contain information about the photon interaction
> with the electron, but QED does.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  There is a third possibility – that Va’vra is measuring something
>> completely different… since as I recall, he is trying to explain a
>> phenomenon of the Milky Way, and the others who see emissions from distant
>> galaxies in the range of 3.5 keV are seeing a characteristic emission of
>> dark matter which is far removed.
>>
>>
>>
>> The emission line which they see (5 or 6 different papers) is
>> red-shifted, but is not clear if the originating radiation is 3.7 keV or
>> not. At any rate it is NOT as Mills suggests, the 3.4 keV which he
>> calculates, since the red-shift would lower that. So we know that Mills is
>> wrong, if nothing else as his value is lower than what is actually seen,
>> when it should be higher.
>>
>>
>>
>> The fourth possibility is the most likely. Va’vra is seeing positron
>> annihilation, which he tries to marginalize as a possibility, but it is too
>> coincidental to be otherwise.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Eric Walker
>>
>>
>>
>>   Just one point of detail -- I read Va'vra as saying that if you sum
>> all of the photon energies from a hydrogen atom going to DDL across a full
>> solid angle, this will add up to 511 keV.
>>
>>
>>
>> Looking at the 2013 paper again, that is just one of two possibilities.
>>  One possibility is that the DDL gives off a 511 keV emission (explaining
>> the signal in the cosmic background) and the other is that the DDL
>> emissions sum up over a solid angle (not explaining the signal, presumably)
>> [1].  He does something similar with the capture cross section of DDL
>> hydrogen -- it might or might not be all that high (p. 6).
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] http://arxiv.org/pdf/1304.0833v3.pdf, p. 5
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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