Wikipedia may not have kind words for the proponents, but that does not
seem to have stopped other people making serious (I assume) suggestions
as to how they could be measured, and getting their ideas published in
Science.
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/339/6122/928.abstract?sid=ec0e0993-aeb3-4f3d-9fbc-35c4c0cecb73
Nigel
On 07/09/2014 22:16, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:
Wiki doesn't have many kind words for many of the torsion field proponents
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_field_%28pseudoscience%29
...despite Jack Sarfatti (or maybe because of him)
But there could be a kernel of truth which is related to spin coupling. Terry
may know what Jack's response is...
Well, attempts at verification of TF by experimental evidence have had
poor results. Jack invited Gennady over for a storming session about
a decade ago and the result was a falling out. This often happens
when large egos collide...especially in phrynge physics. Jack pretty
much labels it as so much BS here (and Jack knows BS):
http://quantumfuture.net/quantum_future/torsion.pdf
"All the words in quotation marks above are unnecessary or misleading, or
make no sense at all. Their actual function is to discourage the experts from
trying to figure it out what the author is talking about. It is part of what is
called ”impressionistic style” in theoretical physics. There is nothing wrong
with impressionistic style. Some painters are realist, some surrealist, some
impressionist etc. But it is important to recognize the style. When I see an
impressionistic painting, I usually squint my eyes so as to consciously not to
pay attention to the details. I understand that it is up to me to give the
meaning to the painting, not to the painter. And sometimes I am able to
give this meaning, and sometimes not."
I think the dialog between the two pretty much ended with:
"Gennady Shipov
Goldstone's fields and Higgs's mechanism in my theory are connected
with primary torsion fields.
Jack
Show equations.
Shipov
It is object which appears pioneering from Absolute Vacuum.
Jack
Show equations"
