> The general reason is that it is much safer to discuss something you know than to open up to the unknown.
I don't think it is the greatest cause. As I live in a country build on massive groupthink and dissenters elimination, I know the Parkinsson observation you cite. however the reason why people focus on punny or endless debate it is because they are endless, and allow people to make unresolvable battle of values and ego. The debate that are forbidden are those where the conclusion is clear. In groupthink people can say "we have tested all" and dissenters can answer "except what is working". On cold fusion I see often that people debate on questionable experiments, questionable entrepreneurs, but mostly avoid clear evidences that let no questions. Taleb have a principle that what is true does not need many evidences... Just citing F&P92 and McKubre experiments should close the debate on excess heat, as those experiments have been under high scrutiny and never challenged seriously. Tritium may close the "is it nuclear" with few experiments like BARC and Texas AM, confirmed by the know fraud/cherry picking of gary taubes whose theory show the lack of honesty of the whole community of critics, and their totale absence of arguments despite huge strutiny. 2-3 Helium experiments (I let Jed propose the best one) as debated here are enough in that context to prove by statistics (correlation, not absolute value, like Higgs - science is above tea kettle arguments and know how to interpret weak signal since centuries) that Helium participates PdD LENR. This explain also why we prefer to discuss on theory than on experiments... another bias is that as Peter noticed we start to ignore old evidences that let no doubt, not because they have lost any value, but because the have not convinced the one who cannot be convinced... imagining that new evidence can convince better. You cannot wake someone who just pretend to sleep. If 2-3 good experiments cannot convince someone at least to emit good structured critics, there is no need to go further. 2014-09-18 20:17 GMT+02:00 Lennart Thornros <[email protected]>: > Hi Peter, > > I saw your post. I agree that the old proverb prepare for the worst and > hope for the best is valid. > It is just that it feels better to approach problems with a positive > attitude - for me at least. > I agree about the political side of the issue. I merely wanted to express > that I am not convinced by any system and definitely do not support any > popular US party. Yes now and then they express the same opinion. The > difference is that they have no intention / ability / passion for the > implementation. It is just pure propaganda. Kleptocracy do rule. > > In regards to the habit of take out old already solved problems it is part > of the group thinking. Parkinson expressed that in his second law ' Time > devoted to discussions about issues is reversed proportional to the > importance of the issues'. (The first says that a task takes the time > allotted to the task). The general reason is that it is much safer to > discuss something you know than to open up to the unknown. > > BTW I liked your statements about the truth. > > Best Regards , > Lennart Thornros > > www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com > [email protected] > +1 916 436 1899 > 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 > > “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a > commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Thank you dear Lennart >> >> I have answered in part with my essay of today. >> We will discuss later the political issues by private posts >> it's more polite so. >> Peter >> >> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Lennart Thornros <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Yes, Peter it was a bit depressive. >>> I am more optimistic than you are. I think the world is self correcting. >>> Too much of something and there will be a pressure to stop, which >>> eventually will bring things back toward neutral and beyond for a new >>> opposite pressure. I have said many times that I believe we have way too >>> much believe in large organizations and 'fair' limitations. I do not think >>> ever was meant to be fair and I do not think we need large government to >>> protect us from each other. ( BTW In reality the protection they offer is >>> just lip service - combined with a lot of CYA.). >>> Yes, we give up our individual rights so we will be secure by big >>> organizations. >>> No, none owns THE truth. >>> *Intolerance kills people, tolerance destroys the Society.* You say- so >>> why not chose tolerance , it is easier than the opposite. Who wants the >>> totally organized and secure society? >>> You say, that dumbing down people is a major achievement today. Yes, we >>> are exchanging common sense with policies, than nobody is responsible but >>> the policy (which never can be changed just mitigated with three new >>> policies. I predict a reaction within 50 years where the individual becomes >>> in the center and LENR is to me an important possibility. >>> *Kleptocracy is the most natural form of government.** (or is it >>> theocracy?)* As I am sure you know we get the government we deserve and >>> it has nothing to do with party politics and not with the type ideology we >>> are governed by (democracy is as Churchill said - lousy form but we just >>> have not found any better so far - locking everywhere. I think we will find >>> one - the born optimist:) >>> *The world economy- a myriapode with Achilles Heels* maybe I rather >>> think about it as a dinosaurs with Achilles heels all over the backside. >>> Yes, LENR needs to accomplish what you said to be accepted. It can be a >>> financial success first and receive a Nobel prize much later. Rather normal. >>> I hope the Rossi report is positive and then the Scots can do as they >>> want and if Glasgow wants to be a country by itself is also fine. I assume >>> Scotland will have friendly relations with England and Europe. They can >>> make a rule that only people wearing kilts can visit or live there. It is >>> way too cold for me anyhow:) >>> >>> Best Regards , >>> Lennart Thornros >>> >>> www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com >>> [email protected] >>> +1 916 436 1899 >>> 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 >>> >>> “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a >>> commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Brad, >>>> >>>> In the context of my paper it is just a wild guess- I have not the >>>> slightest idea when and where will the Report appear. Till now Rossi has >>>> alluded to September; >>>> Today he said on the JONP blog most probably October but... In which >>>> extent it is positive or negative we will see and evaluate. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Brad Lowe <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>> >>>>> You write: "Tomorrow we will receive the first relevant information >>>>> regarding the Rossi Report simultaneously with Scotland’s vote for >>>>> independence" >>>>> Can you elaborate as to what report information will be released? And >>>>> as to whether it will be positive or negative? >>>>> >>>>> - Brad >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 7:11 AM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Due to poisoning with Paracetamol Sinus Forte periodically I become >>>>> > depressive. Then it helps to write essays like this one: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2014/09/lenr-and-troubles-with-21st-century.html >>>>> > >>>>> > It is about prediction, LENR is deeply embedded in the context. >>>>> > However what I say about it, is unfortunately true. >>>>> > >>>>> > I hope that paradoxically, this writing will stimulate your LENR >>>>> optimism. >>>>> > >>>>> > Greetings, >>>>> > Peter >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > Dr. Peter Gluck >>>>> > Cluj, Romania >>>>> > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Peter Gluck >>>> Cluj, Romania >>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Peter Gluck >> Cluj, Romania >> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >> > >
