When I read Beaudette key page, I thing that like dinosaurs they did not
evolve since 1989

"Unfortunately, *physicists did not generally claim expertise in
calorimetry*, the measurement of calories of heat energy. Nor did they
countenance clever chemists declaring hypotheses about nuclear physics.
Their outspoken commentary largely ignored the heat measurements along with
the offer of an hypothesis about unknown nuclear processes. They did not
acquaint themselves with the laboratory procedures that produced anomalous
heat data. These attitudes held firm throughout the first decade, causing a
sustained controversy.

The upshot of this conflict was that* the scientific community failed to
give anomalous heat the evaluation that was its due*. Scientists of
orthodox views, in the first six years of this episode, produced *only four
critical reviews* of the two chemists’ calorimetry work. The first report
came in 1989 (N. S. Lewis). It dismissed the Utah claim for anomalous power
on grounds of faulty laboratory technique. A second review was produced in
1991 (W. N. Hansen) that strongly supported the claim. It was based on an
independent analysis of cell data that was provided by the two chemists. An
extensive review completed in 1992 (R. H. Wilson)* was highly critical
though not conclusive*. But it* did recognize the existence of anomalous
power*, which carried the implication that the Lewis dismissal was
mistaken. A fourth review was produced in 1994 (D. R. O. Morrison) which
was itself unsatisfactory. It was rebutted strongly to the point of
dismissal and correctly in my view. No defense was offered against the
rebuttal.* During those first six years, the community of orthodox
scientists produced no report of a flaw in the heat measurements that was
subsequently sustained by other reports.*

The *community of scientists at large never saw or knew about this
minimalist critique of the claim*. It was *buried in the avalanche of
skepticism* that issued forth *in the first three months*. This skepticism
was buttressed by the f*ailure of the two chemists’ nuclear measurements*,
the *lack of a theoretical understanding* of how their claim could
work, a *mistaken
concern with the number of failed experiments*, a wholly* unrealistic
expectation of the time and resource the evaluation would need*, and the
substantial ad hominem attacks on them. However, *their original claim of
measurement of the anomalous power remained unscathed during all of this
furor*. A *decade later*, it was not generally realized that *this claim
remained essentially unevaluated* by the scientific community. Confusion
necessarily arose when* the skeptics refused without argument to recognize
the heat measurement* and its corresponding hypothesis of a nuclear source.
As a consequence, the story of the excess heat phenomenon has never been
told."

all said here match well current situation, Pomp cargo cult skepticism...

To bad again that the report is not enough flawless to convince desperately
dishonest priest of the consensus. To understand that E-cat is real
requires still too much computation and reasoning.
you need to make complex reasoning, with game theory to rule out fraud.
with calorimetry, emissivity, transparency, bounding the lever of errors,
to get around the bad calibration...
like it was well done on the electric part, the test should be redone
accounting for the critics on calorimetry...

anyway the important people, the investors, the industrialists, who are
aware of the test know it is real, even if not sure industrial... many
heuristics make them optimistic, and real people know what risk is, and
E-cat today is a normal risk, less than a startup.

but sure academic who still live in another planet where theory rules all,
where experience are predictable, where nothing deserve to be hidden, where
consensus is eternal provided you forget the past, where money is not a
problem nor a hope, will discover it in Wall-Street Journal.



2014-10-17 5:22 GMT+02:00 Foks0904 . <[email protected]>:

> This is sort of a microcosm of 89' all of again in terms of skepticism.
> The excess heat is almost undoubtedly real, but let's make it about the
> integrity of nuclear product measurements. Pomp is doing the same red
> herring shit that Hueizenga, Close, Parker, etc. engaged in.
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:11 PM, John Berry <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> The source of the energy is irrelevant to the existence of excess energy.
>>
>> The ECAT shouldn't fall based on incorrect and ultimately irrelevant
>> beliefs of why it functions.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 2:43 PM, H Veeder <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   *From:* H Veeder
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't look good for Rossi, but I am not sure I understand Pomp's
>>>> point.
>>>> Is Pomp saying Rossi is  rewriting history to make it look like​ Ni62
>>>> was present in the ash of his earlier EC at?
>>>> http://stephanpomp.blogspot.se/2014/10/mr-rossi-i-admire-you.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ​Harry​
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, he is crystal clear that he thinks Rossi is cheating :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> “All this leaves only one conclusion: you were playing tricks then
>>>> (trying to give the impression that copper was produced) and you are
>>>> playing tricks now (trying to have people believe all nickel somehow
>>>> converted into Ni-62)”
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> We all know now the copper was not the result of transmutation because
>>> it came from contamination. This was a mistake which he didn't want to
>>> acknowledge because *he* felt embarrassed by it. Rossi is someone who
>>> experiences a lot of shame when he makes even an honest mistake, and this
>>> causes him to either deny the mistake or react angrily. I am not sure why
>>> he is so sensitive when it comes to making honest mistakes. Perhaps the
>>> mafia exploited one of his honest mistakes and this led his erroneous
>>> conviction. The important thing to remember is that making mistakes is not
>>> bad thing in science.
>>>
>>> Harry
>>>
>>
>>
>

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