James--

I agree with your conclusion about the pseudo-skeptics.  

I would only add that Rossi and IH probably hope the pseudo-skeptics keep it up 
and impede the flow of money to competing LENR companies.  

Bob Cook
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: James Bowery 
  To: vortex-l 
  Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 8:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Is the beginning of the end of the ECat saga?


  Why would anyone rational care what what the pseudo-skeptics have to say 
anymore?


  They used to be relevant but they aren't anymore.  Too much is going on now 
for them to be able to impede progress much.







  On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Foks0904 . <[email protected]> wrote:

    This is sort of a microcosm of 89' all of again in terms of skepticism. The 
excess heat is almost undoubtedly real, but let's make it about the integrity 
of nuclear product measurements. Pomp is doing the same red herring shit that 
Hueizenga, Close, Parker, etc. engaged in.


    On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:11 PM, John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:

      The source of the energy is irrelevant to the existence of excess energy.


      The ECAT shouldn't fall based on incorrect and ultimately irrelevant 
beliefs of why it functions.


      On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 2:43 PM, H Veeder <[email protected]> wrote:





        On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> 
wrote:

          From: H Veeder 



          Doesn't look good for Rossi, but I am not sure I understand Pomp's 
point.
          Is Pomp saying Rossi is  rewriting history to make it look like​ Ni62 
was present in the ash of his earlier EC at? 
http://stephanpomp.blogspot.se/2014/10/mr-rossi-i-admire-you.html



          ​Harry​



          No, he is crystal clear that he thinks Rossi is cheating :



          “All this leaves only one conclusion: you were playing tricks then 
(trying to give the impression that copper was produced) and you are playing 
tricks now (trying to have people believe all nickel somehow converted into 
Ni-62)”








        We all know now the copper was not the result of transmutation because 
it came from contamination. This was a mistake which he didn't want to 
acknowledge because *he* felt embarrassed by it. Rossi is someone who 
experiences a lot of shame when he makes even an honest mistake, and this 
causes him to either deny the mistake or react angrily. I am not sure why he is 
so sensitive when it comes to making honest mistakes. Perhaps the mafia 
exploited one of his honest mistakes and this led his erroneous conviction. The 
important thing to remember is that making mistakes is not bad thing in 
science. 

        Harry





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