Dave--
I agree with your logic and that some of that mass will be associated with spin
energy and its conversion to heat.
Bob Cook
----- Original Message -----
From: David Roberson
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Gettering in the Lugano IH reactor
But what about the conservation of energy? What mass is being depleted in
order to release the energy?
No one has ever shown proof that energy can appear out of nowhere and
continue to exist.
I suggest that the true source will be uncovered one day and it will be
associated with a depletion of fuel mass.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Sat, Oct 18, 2014 10:48 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]: Gettering in the Lugano IH reactor
One thing worth adding – Rossi is said to use a sintered
instead of a fused alumina tube. This could be an important detail in
superradiance, since the particle size of the alumina before sintering would
influence emissivity. For instance, if the tube was made from 10-11 micron
alumina powder, then that could favor NASA mentioning a parameter of 27 THz…
however, that could be merely one of many coherency ranges which work for
SPP… and not a favored range.
The SPP “independent gain hypothesis” would work with no
nuclear tie-in – a Dirac sea explanation for at least that part of the gain.
This is radical but it fits the facts of no gamma, no radioactive ash, need
for constant and large electrical input, need for mostly ceramics and little
metal, etc. and even the alumina tubes. The most important thing of interest
is that - since the MFMP is going to build a “dummy” reactor – they could
see the evidence of SPP gain, without added nickel, hydrogen, lithium or any
other “fuel”- if they know what to look for.
Unfortunately, this would mean that meaningful calibration
cannot be accomplished with the dummy, as it is now seen to be active above
a trigger temperature, which is the active photon going into superradiance.
The $64 is what is the value of this photon. NASA has seen the photon at 27
THz (wavelength 10.5 microns) which corresponds to 1050 C, but that could be
because of different conditions in their experiment. Perhaps there are
varying factors of superradiance which make a broad range of photons
candidates for SPP interaction.
First, MFMP would need to chart a comparison of IR radiation
at the camera wavelength along with a real temperature profile, done with a
platinum thermocouple, which confirms the calculated gain. Then they would
need to look for a large jump in the IR profile which coincides with the
incandescence of the SPP light at superradiance. It is safe to surmise that
this semi-coherence happens about 1050 C. If they see a big jump there, then
we have explained a major part of the conundrum.
If they find even slight gain (COP 1.2 or so) then that will
indicate a non-nuclear modality which could affect nuclear reactions later.
If the gain is large enough, a nuclear secondary reaction is superfluous.
It is only if the heat is conveyed away from
the NAE that in a short term high output burst that the NAE could heat its
environment hotter than itself and cause a meltdown.
The previous hot cats which were all in stainless jackets
were subject to meltdown, but I can find reference to the ceramic one being
in a meltdown. It seems to be in better control or Rossi would not have left
it there. Perhaps the breakthrough of Rossi, if there is one, is to get away
from a nuclear pathway altogether, and this one is not nuclear at all. (but
he wants you to think it is).
Another remote possibility should be
mentioned, if real gain is found in this device… and that would be this:
the basis of gain could be only SPP – surface plasmon polaritons. This
species may be gainful in itself as it condenses. Electrons would be lost to
the Dirac sea via SPP, for instance - but with a relic such as spin retained
in 3-space.
Again that may seem remote to you now, but
to someone who has studied SPP it is more probable than magic gamma ray
absorbers, the infamous gram of magic fuel for 30 days, magic internal
cooling to protect the fuel, magic fuel rejuvenation of surface features,
and the dozen or so other miracles necessary for this device to be related
to nuclear fusion.
What are the main objections to a SPP
modality?
Jones
From: Bob Higgins
… Think about it like a microwave oven (only
x-rays instead of microwaves). The oven walls don't initially get hot. The
food inside gets hot from the microwave absorbtion and the IR from the food
then heats up the walls of the oven.
