Jones--
As you may remember I was at the University of Bologna on September 19th
exactly 1 month ago with the objective of visiting Levi. I do not believe he
was "well paid" for his work at Lugano.
The University would not accept a donation from me to assist in LENR research
at the University or any other donation unless it was specifically approved by
the Italian Government. I was informed that there is an Italian law to this
effect disallowing donations to Italian universities, at least those that are
state owned. The Physics Department head professor noted that there would be a
lot of paper work necessary to even propose a donation. I got the idea that
any effort to go through the red tape would be useless.
Separately, while in Bologna I was informed that it would be doubtful that Levi
would accept any kind of payment or donation of any kind and still remain a
professor. This was an outside opinion by what I consider a knowledgeable
Italian source. In this regard I concluded that Focardi was never paid by
Rossi while being a professor. He and Levi worked together and seemed to me
to be of like minds.
The reason I was not able to meet with Levi himself is not clear, however, in
reflection I believe he was in Lugano working on the report we have been
discussing. I have not confirmed this with him. I may try in the future not
that I am back with my desk top keyboard.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: Jones Beene
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Color Temperature
I disagree Dave. If you were to count the many hundreds if not thousands of
hours which have been wasted arguing over the thermometry, multiplied by the
hourly rate of the arguers, the actual cost to do excellent water flow
calorimetry would have been a small fraction of that – probably less than 10%.
Ahern offered to do this for less than the many airfares to Lugano. Levi
should not be given a free ride on this report, since he was roundly criticized
in the first instance. I suspect he was well-paid as well.
From: David Roberson
Jones, you are being unfair to Levi and the others. Putting together a
calorimetric system that the skeptics would accept as accurate would not be an
easy task.
I appreciate the work that these guys performed. There are shortcomings that
many have pointed out, but I suspect that this will always be the situation
regardless of what is done.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Jones Beene
The discussion of color and temperature only mask the glaring reality thatan
inexpensive way to be certain of thermal gain in the TP2 device is
flowcalorimetry. Of course, Levi knew that from TP1 – he was told this by
dozens of peers -that he should have performed this task, yet he did not. There
is no validexcuse … other than gross incompetence. The spiel that the
temperature of the tube must maintain thermal equilibriumis no excuse. A long
copper sheet, bent into a jacket with surrounding watercoil extending over the
lead-tubes, and surrounded by Aerogel superinsulation could be mounted 20 cm
away so as not to affect thermalequilibrium. It would retain 95% of heat (all
forms) to be removed by thefluid. Instead, we are left with a credibility
disaster for LENR in general. CanMizuno right the ship?
_____________________________________________ From: Jones Beene
There is one other important detail in the discussion oflight vs. temperature
– the coherence or semi-coherence of the radiation.This is a step above
“intensity”. If it is semi-coherent, the term “superradiance” is
used.Even “invisible” IR light can be extremely visible – blindingly
visible,when it is coherent or semi-coherent. A CO2 laser is all the
evidence you need of that. The IRphotons of this laser are completely invisible
to the human eye - unlesscoherent where they show up as red. The CO2
laser is important because this wavelength is nearor identical to where NASA
thinks SPP are most easily formed. Of course,that could be because they are
using a CO2 laser :-) From: H Veeder
_Colour temperature_ refers to the
*peak*emission of a blackbody whose temperature produces a peak emission
withinthe visible spectrum.
e.g. The surface of the sun is about 6000Cand the peek emission is white light
so it has color temperature of white.
_Incadescence_ is the *visible* lightemitted by a black body at a given
temperature. An iron at 800C
glows red but the peakemission is in the infrared .
