In the report they said they were unable to attach a thermocouple to the exterior of tube. They should have put the test on hold until they figured out how to do it. Harry
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 3:04 AM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: > This is the question that I have been wrestling with for so long Harry. > I may have found a method of getting to the real temperature value. The > technique need a lot more calibration before it can be trusted. > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: H Veeder <[email protected]> > To: vortex-l <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, Oct 19, 2014 3:00 am > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature > > Should the reactor radiate like a normal incandescent body of 1400C or > does the reactor radiate according to some other rules? > Jed (and Mizuno?) assume it behaves like a normal incandescent body of > 1400C so it should glow white. Since it doesn't glow white they assume the > output power estimate based on infrared light measurements is invalid. > However, even if it were glowing white, the visible light contribution > could be ignored and the power output could be (under)estimated from just > the infrared light measurements. > > Harry > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 2:19 AM, David Roberson <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I saw the photo of the block and of course it seems to be similar as >> well. I am not convinced that the casting that was treated for 12 hours >> and quickly removed had time to cool that much. I may be wrong, but the >> first reference I located showed roughly the same color as well. This also >> matched what was observed by the testers. >> >> I see evidence building up that what the testers saw might have been >> reasonable. Also, I recall that the sun is supposed to appear near white >> and it is far hotter than 1400 C. >> >> We need to locate an expert in this field to settle the question. >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> >> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sun, Oct 19, 2014 2:07 am >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature >> >> David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I found another entry relating to heat treating of metals. There is a >>> picture of a heat treated casting that states that it was just removed from >>> the oven after heating at 1200 C for 12 hours. >> >> >> I presume the castings were removed a few minutes before the photo was >> taken and they have cooled down to around 900 deg C. >> >> Look at the first photo in this article, "Heat treating furnace at 1,800 >> °F (980 °C)." The red color is similar to the e-cat color, and to the 900 >> deg C mark on the incandescence color bar: >> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incandescence#mediaviewer/File:Incandescence_Color.jpg >> >> - Jed >> >> >
