For sure, but it isn't interesting to take electrical and do a 3:1 COP on
it.   what's interesting is to take coal or gas and do a 3:1 COP on it.
But I think if Rossi can do that, than I think he should be pretty close to
just using an eCat for it.

On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Bob Higgins <[email protected]>
wrote:

> It is interesting to note that Rossi's lower temperature eCat arrays
> appear to go into service for heating.
>
> If you look at his hotCats, they are being configured as industrial
> furnace heating elements.  Operating at >1000C, these furnace heating
> elements being replaced are mostly electrical with a COP=1 (as Bob Greenyer
> showed, some are gas).  A COP=3+ heating element for these industrial
> furnace applications will save a lot of money and coal because coal is
> being used to drive the COP=1 furnace elements today.  I think the biggest
> expense for some of these large companies that use heat treatment is the
> energy cost and I think a COP=3+ for a T=1300C+ furnace element will sell
> well.  There are no heat pumps in such a high temperature application to
> compete with.  In China, pollution is so bad that the real cost of coal is
> high.
>
> The money appears to be in heat at the moment, not in electrical
> production.  It is 28F here this morning and we just had our first dusting
> of snow.  I could really use a nice COP=3 heater.  In cold weather
> climates, even cold weather optimized heat pumps don't operate with a COP
> over 3.  There would be a nice home market here.
>
> Bob Higgins
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Blaze Spinnaker <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Interesting posts on e-cat world lately.   It's a good point.  If coal is
>> so cheap, than a cop of 3:1 for electricity -> thermal isn't going to cut
>> it.
>>
>> They're are going to need to be able to power the cat by coal itself or
>> gas and get a 3:1 thermal -> thermal ratio.
>>
>
>

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