The COP etc is meaningless without replication or at the very worst - third
party verification.


On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Jack Cole <[email protected]> wrote:

> Alan,
>
> The report notes that they ignored the energy needed to heat the steam
> beyond 100C and also underestimated the flow by 10% to be conservative.
> Does this affect your analysis?
>
> Jack
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Alan Fletcher <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> *From: *"David Roberson" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent: *Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:09:13 AM
>>
>> > I was referring to the evidence supporting the claimed COP and not the
>> usefulness of the steam itself.  Accurate measurement of the heat power is
>> the important issue at hand.  Of course the guys calculating the COP must
>> know how much heat the steam contains.  That seems obvious and not needing
>> to be stated.
>>
>> Still needs to be taken into account.  They don't describe the structure
>> of the "boiler".  Since they're only aiming for 100C steam the hotcat
>> heater elements are most likely immersed in a tank of water, so they just
>> boil the water and don't super-heat the resulting steam.
>>
>> In that case it's most like a kettle boiler, which will typically (is
>> this situation typical?) generate 95% steam quality.  Depending on the
>> application they might not even need "dry" 100C steam.
>>
>> In the original test they just had a simple outlet valve to check that no
>> liquid water was escaping. They probably had that here, too, though it's
>> not described.
>>
>> A real-life steam customer will be happy just seeing some steam vented,
>> with no liquid water running out of the outlet.
>>
>> But it won't satisfy scientists and skeptics.  Or the patent office?
>>
>
>

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