To take this part of the thread (re: a putative DCE connection to the Rossi patent application) - to its natural conclusion, there is one big … no huge … advance made by Rossi - over the Haisch/Moddel disclosure.
That would be assuming that Rossi has actually seen the level of gain which is claimed, whereas H/M saw little gain in their prototype … which could have been for any number of reasons but mainly because you also need SPP. Therefore - the natural question of looking at the two together is this – can the Casimir effect be enhanced by high temperature (and SPP)? Thanks to Google, we have an answer, since this citation pops up (behind an annoying paywall) which indicates that the Casimir is indeed enhanced at high temperature. Imagine that. http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2014/140709/ncomms5364/abs/ncomms5364.html Abstract: The temperature dependence of the Casimir–Polder interaction addresses fundamental issues for understanding vacuum and thermal fluctuations. It is highly sensitive to surface waves, which, in the near field, govern the thermal emission of a hot surface… the observed increase of the interaction with temperature, by up to 50%, relies on the coupling between atomic virtual transitions in the infrared range and thermally excited surface-polariton modes. In conclusion – the Haisch/Moddel patent may explain slight thermal gain via DCE, when hydrogen is absorbed into ceramic cavities of the proper size, but which the original inventors could not document enough gain to matter. Yet Rossi has found using a much higher temperature regime - which he may not have explained correctly in his patent application using SPP in combination with Casimir. Each got part of the answer, but it requires looking at both to see it all. So where do we go from here? From: David Roberson * Are you not amazed that a patent is issued for a device of this type and not for one that claims cold fusion as the source of energy? Not really – this is the dividing line between mainstream and fringe – and it is a narrow line. I’m assuming you are talking about the Haisch/Moddel device, which is an issued patent; but which could relate to the Rossi HT which is only an application, not granted. Rossi was wise to drop the nuclear claims. * What are the chances that the inventors actually brought one of these systems to the patent office to prove that it works? None but they built a prototype. These are extremely well credentialed inventors. Plus the Casimir force is real. There is no need for anything else to establish credibility, and IIRC when this patent was part of CoolEssence – they built a prototype which performed poorly! So the patent was granted, even though the device did not perform well. Roarty may know the details of the prototype. > It is very sad that our field is treated as the unwanted kid while everyone > else gets a free ride But realize – this is because there is no good proof of a nuclear reaction in the estimation of USPTO yet the Casimir force is proved. If it turns out the Rossi HT device is based on the Dynamical Casimir Effect (DCE) – which very well could be the case, who knows? … then USPTO was correct in rejecting anything to do with nuclear reactions, since there is no convincing evidence. -----Original Message----- From: Jones Beene You say potato, I say potato… But the main implications which stands out on first read – if we try to interpret what is being claimed in this disclosure relative to what we already know… 1) Non-nuclear 2) Requires substantial electrical input and elevate temperature 3) Requires ceramic containment 4) If hydrogen is the active “agent” for gain, in the sense of Ni-H - then the hydrogen must be embedded in the nickel as a strongly bound hydride instead of as a more weakly bound absorbate , in such a way that hydrogen is not released at extreme temperature (as it usually is). 5) Otherwise, and this is more likely: the ceramic matrix would retain the diffuse hydrogen after thermal release from the nickel; and if it is porous, as sintered ceramic usually is (6-8% porosity is common), then this points to a Casimir modality… If I were the folks at Jovion, I would be feeling pretty good about this turn of events, having a granted patent- United States 7,379,286 Quantum vacuum energy extraction Inventors: Haisch, Bernard (Redwood City, CA); Moddel, Garret (Boulder, CO) Assignee: Jovion Corporation (Menlo Park, CA) Abstract A system is disclosed for converting energy from the electromagnetic quantum vacuum available at any point in the universe to usable energy in the form of heat, electricity, mechanical energy or other forms of power. By suppressing electromagnetic quantum vacuum energy at appropriate frequencies a change may be effected in the electron energy levels which will result in the emission or release of energy. Mode suppression of electromagnetic quantum vacuum radiation is known to take place in Casimir cavities. A Casimir cavity refers to any region in which electromagnetic modes are suppressed or restricted. When atoms enter into suitable micro Casimir cavities a decrease in the orbital energies of electrons in atoms will thus occur. Such energy will be captured in the claimed devices. Upon emergence form such micro Casimir cavities the atoms will be re-energized by the ambient electromagnetic quantum vacuum. In this way energy is extracted locally and replenished globally from and by the electromagnetic quantum vacuum. This process may be repeated an unlimited number of times. This process is also consistent with the conservation of energy in that all usable energy does come at the expense of the energy content of the electromagnetic quantum vacuum. Similar effects may be produced by acting upon molecular bonds. Devices are described in which gas is recycled through a multiplicity of Casimir cavities. The disclosed devices are scalable in size and energy output for applications ranging from replacements for small batteries to power plant sized generators of electricity.
