Well I guess the class in logic I was imagining was created by logical people to help make a logical improvement in logic.
Of course if it is created by illogical and corrupt people to destroy and control logic, then I agree. Overall the best schooling is a brick of salt a a ton of books. John. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Lennart Thornros <[email protected]> wrote: > John Berry I agree with your conclusion. > I do not agree with that "Seems like there should be a class in logic at > school then if it isn't obvious enough." On the contrary that class will > make logic even more unusual.. > Maybe that Milton H. Erickson did wrong I do not know the circumstances. > However, I know that to persuade anyone else you need to engage both halves > of the brain and somehow a connection between two people's right brain > really helps to get information over. Yes, it can be misused (like most > other powers). Sometimes this connection is called trust and it is hard to > catch. > Today there is a very slim chance to convince somebody that LENR is real. > A lot of the trusted say the opposite (most of the academia). > Not only is the best 'medicine' to let them "bright enough join" on their > own terms, it is also best for LENR. The table will turn quickly when the > first generator is available. > > Best Regards , > Lennart Thornros > > www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com > [email protected] > +1 916 436 1899 > 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 > > “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a > commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM > > On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 2:20 PM, John Berry <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Jed, you sure can write a thoroughly depressing post. >> >> On the plus side if the world we have now is the result of a minority of >> people being logical (jokes about women vastly underestimate the problem) >> then it does give me hope for how great a society where the vast majority >> actually grasps logic and truth and holds it above whatever the popular >> belief might be. >> >> But I never had any training in logic, so I assumed it was something that >> most people naturally had but chose to reject (which we can all do as our >> right brain often wins out). >> >> But I guess that my logic came inbuilt as part of my being an INTJ. >> >> INTJ's have the highest IQ of any of the 16 Myers Briggs types, so are >> perhaps more likely to generate their own logic without any education. >> Introversion, intuition, thinking and judging sounds like the ingredients >> to invent logic independently. >> >> Seems like there should be a class in logic at school then if it isn't >> obvious enough. >> >> Increasingly emotional arguments, persuasion, conversational hypnosis and >> psychological pressure are looking like justifiable tools to get the needed >> agreement. >> >> Pioneer hypnotist Dr. Milton H. Erickson once won over a number of >> Doctors/Professors who had visited him with the intent of disallowing his >> work in some respect (I forget the details and I can't find a reference, >> would be in respect to psychology or psychiatry). >> Of course he used conversational hypnosis to reverse their intention. >> >> I would normally have considered it wrong to persuade right thinking >> people this way, but increasingly I am not sure they are common enough for >> that moral concern to be valid. >> >> If logic can't work, then I am unsure there are any other options, except >> as you say, going fishing. >> Let those bright enough join in if they will. >> >> John >> >> > >
