Dear Christoph,
Thanks for your patient interpretation. I had a misunderstanding about
initial guess of non-bonded tabulated potential and other interactions
(table.xvg)

2013/7/5 Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>

> 2013/7/4 郭志成 <[email protected]>:
> >  Hi Christoph,
> > Thanks for your reply. Hmm, you're right that it is more quicker and
> easier
> > to run IBI using gromacs than espresso. As mentioned above, the initial
> > tabulated potential for bonded interacation directly can be obtained
> using
> > csg_boltzmann tool, however, initial guess of tabulated potential for
> > non-bonded interaction can not be generated by csg_boltzamnn tool. Thus,
> I
> > want to know how to get the initial non-bonded tabulated potential
> > (csg-tutorial/methanol/ibi/table.xvg) through calculating rdf in VOTCA.
> You don't need to provide an initial guess. VOTCA is doing that
> automatically, you could do the same manually using:
> $ csg_call --ia-name CG-CG --options settings.xml --ia-type non-bonded
> prepare_single ibi
> (change the "CG-CG" to name of your interaction)
> This will generate a CG-CG.pot.new, which is the initial guess
> calculated from the rdf. You could preprocess that file and give it to
> Votca as initial guess (CG-CG.pot.in <http://cg-cg.pot.in/>).
>
> Please don't confuse table.xvg with an initial guess. The interaction
> between the CG beads in methanol/ibi is given as table_CG_CG.xvg to
> gromacs (see the xml settings file). table.xvg is used for all other
> interactions, which are not covered by special tables (table_X_Y.xvg).
> Even if there are no other interactions gromacs will need a table.xvg
> file (this might has changed in gromacs 4.6). None of our tutorials
> actually uses table.xvg, this is just a gromacs specialty.
>
> Christoph
>
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Zhicheng
> > 2013/7/3 Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>
> >>
> >> 2013/7/3 Zhicheng <[email protected]>:
> >> > Hi Christoph,
> >> >
> >> > I retried the methanol/ibi_espresso tutorial and modified the bead
> >> > interaction of lennard-jones (inter 0 0 lennard-jones 1.0 1.0 1.12246
> >> > 0.25
> >> > 0.0 ) to replace the tabulated potential (inter 0 0 tabulated
> >> > "table_CG_CG.tab" ) in generate.tcl. However, I got the following
> error
> >> > message:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > property not found: table
> >> Like I said before the scripts in generate_esp_from_gro are only to
> >> generate espresso input data from gromacs input data.
> >> (It basically generates conf.esp.gz from conf.gro)
> >> If you have gromacs input data already just use gromacs to do IBI, it
> >> is easier and quicker!
> >>
> >> >
> >> > In my opinion, it means that the IBI procedure interfaced with
> espresso
> >> > only
> >> > requires tabulated potential other than another type of interaction
> >> > (such as
> >> > lennard-jones). Thus, we have to specify the initial guess of
> tabulated
> >> > potential (table_CG_CG.tab). Is that right?
> >> No, table_CG_CG.tab is generated from the initial rdf.
> >>
> >> To run IBI using Espresso just execute run.sh in methanol/ibi_espresso.
> >> You might need to modify settings.xml if your Espresso binary is named
> >> differently.
> >> run.sh execute csg_inverse, which then calls Espresso.
> >>
> >> Remember to use the updated conf.esp.gz from:
> >>
> >> <
> https://csg-tutorials.votca.googlecode.com/hg/methanol/ibi_espresso/conf.esp.gz
> >
> >>
> >> Christoph
> >> >
> >> > Best Regards!
> >> >
> >> > Zhicheng
> >> > 在 2013年6月28日星期五UTC+8下午10时49分24秒,Christoph Junghans写道:
> >> >>
> >> >> 2013/6/28 Zhicheng <[email protected]>:
> >> >> > Dear all:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The "hist" ("tab") command within csg_boltzmann tools to generate
> the
> >> >> > distribution function (tabulated potential), after post-processing,
> >> >> > can
> >> >> > be
> >> >> > used to derive bonded interaction ( e.g *.dist.tgt table_a1.tab
> >> >> > table_b1.tab
> >> >> > in csg-tutorials/propane/ibi_espresso). However, the tabulated
> >> >> > potential
> >> >> > required by non-bonded interaction can't obtain using this method.
> >> >> > Therefore, I want to know how to generate the tabulated potential
> for
> >> >> > non-bonded interaction ( such as table_CG_CG.tab in
> >> >> > csg-tutorials/methanol/ibi_espresso/generate_esp_from_gro). I will
> be
> >> >> > appreciative if anyone can help me!
> >> >> I think you mixing up two thing here.
> >> >>
> >> >> 1.) csg_inverse will generate  table_CG_CG.tab during IBI procedure
> >> >> for you, the initial potential is calculated out of the rdf
> >> >> (rdf_methanol.xvg). So for IBI there is no initial table_CG_CG.tab
> >> >> needed.
> >> >> 2.) The files in generate_esp_from_gro are converts from gromacs
> input
> >> >> to espresso input (see generate.tcl). This was mainly done to allow
> >> >> user to compare the behavior of different simulation back-ends
> >> >> (espresso vs gromacs). In a real world study, there are very few
> cases
> >> >> where one would convert gromacs input files to espresso instead of
> >> >> simply using gromacs directly.
> >> >>
> >> >> Christoph
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Best Regards!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Zhicheng
> >> >> >
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