And, how can I generate other intercations table.xvg for gromacs.

Sincerely,
Zhicheng

2013/7/5 郭志成 <[email protected]>

> Dear Christoph,
> Thanks for your patient interpretation. I had a misunderstanding about
> initial guess of non-bonded tabulated potential and other interactions
> (table.xvg)
>
>
> 2013/7/5 Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>
>
>> 2013/7/4 郭志成 <[email protected]>:
>> >  Hi Christoph,
>> > Thanks for your reply. Hmm, you're right that it is more quicker and
>> easier
>> > to run IBI using gromacs than espresso. As mentioned above, the initial
>> > tabulated potential for bonded interacation directly can be obtained
>> using
>> > csg_boltzmann tool, however, initial guess of tabulated potential for
>> > non-bonded interaction can not be generated by csg_boltzamnn tool.
>> Thus, I
>> > want to know how to get the initial non-bonded tabulated potential
>> > (csg-tutorial/methanol/ibi/table.xvg) through calculating rdf in VOTCA.
>> You don't need to provide an initial guess. VOTCA is doing that
>> automatically, you could do the same manually using:
>> $ csg_call --ia-name CG-CG --options settings.xml --ia-type non-bonded
>> prepare_single ibi
>> (change the "CG-CG" to name of your interaction)
>> This will generate a CG-CG.pot.new, which is the initial guess
>> calculated from the rdf. You could preprocess that file and give it to
>> Votca as initial guess (CG-CG.pot.in <http://cg-cg.pot.in/>).
>>
>> Please don't confuse table.xvg with an initial guess. The interaction
>> between the CG beads in methanol/ibi is given as table_CG_CG.xvg to
>> gromacs (see the xml settings file). table.xvg is used for all other
>> interactions, which are not covered by special tables (table_X_Y.xvg).
>> Even if there are no other interactions gromacs will need a table.xvg
>> file (this might has changed in gromacs 4.6). None of our tutorials
>> actually uses table.xvg, this is just a gromacs specialty.
>>
>> Christoph
>>
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> > Zhicheng
>> > 2013/7/3 Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>
>> >>
>> >> 2013/7/3 Zhicheng <[email protected]>:
>> >> > Hi Christoph,
>> >> >
>> >> > I retried the methanol/ibi_espresso tutorial and modified the bead
>> >> > interaction of lennard-jones (inter 0 0 lennard-jones 1.0 1.0 1.12246
>> >> > 0.25
>> >> > 0.0 ) to replace the tabulated potential (inter 0 0 tabulated
>> >> > "table_CG_CG.tab" ) in generate.tcl. However, I got the following
>> error
>> >> > message:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > property not found: table
>> >> Like I said before the scripts in generate_esp_from_gro are only to
>> >> generate espresso input data from gromacs input data.
>> >> (It basically generates conf.esp.gz from conf.gro)
>> >> If you have gromacs input data already just use gromacs to do IBI, it
>> >> is easier and quicker!
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > In my opinion, it means that the IBI procedure interfaced with
>> espresso
>> >> > only
>> >> > requires tabulated potential other than another type of interaction
>> >> > (such as
>> >> > lennard-jones). Thus, we have to specify the initial guess of
>> tabulated
>> >> > potential (table_CG_CG.tab). Is that right?
>> >> No, table_CG_CG.tab is generated from the initial rdf.
>> >>
>> >> To run IBI using Espresso just execute run.sh in methanol/ibi_espresso.
>> >> You might need to modify settings.xml if your Espresso binary is named
>> >> differently.
>> >> run.sh execute csg_inverse, which then calls Espresso.
>> >>
>> >> Remember to use the updated conf.esp.gz from:
>> >>
>> >> <
>> https://csg-tutorials.votca.googlecode.com/hg/methanol/ibi_espresso/conf.esp.gz
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Christoph
>> >> >
>> >> > Best Regards!
>> >> >
>> >> > Zhicheng
>> >> > 在 2013年6月28日星期五UTC+8下午10时49分24秒,Christoph Junghans写道:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2013/6/28 Zhicheng <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> > Dear all:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The "hist" ("tab") command within csg_boltzmann tools to generate
>> the
>> >> >> > distribution function (tabulated potential), after
>> post-processing,
>> >> >> > can
>> >> >> > be
>> >> >> > used to derive bonded interaction ( e.g *.dist.tgt table_a1.tab
>> >> >> > table_b1.tab
>> >> >> > in csg-tutorials/propane/ibi_espresso). However, the tabulated
>> >> >> > potential
>> >> >> > required by non-bonded interaction can't obtain using this method.
>> >> >> > Therefore, I want to know how to generate the tabulated potential
>> for
>> >> >> > non-bonded interaction ( such as table_CG_CG.tab in
>> >> >> > csg-tutorials/methanol/ibi_espresso/generate_esp_from_gro). I
>> will be
>> >> >> > appreciative if anyone can help me!
>> >> >> I think you mixing up two thing here.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1.) csg_inverse will generate  table_CG_CG.tab during IBI procedure
>> >> >> for you, the initial potential is calculated out of the rdf
>> >> >> (rdf_methanol.xvg). So for IBI there is no initial table_CG_CG.tab
>> >> >> needed.
>> >> >> 2.) The files in generate_esp_from_gro are converts from gromacs
>> input
>> >> >> to espresso input (see generate.tcl). This was mainly done to allow
>> >> >> user to compare the behavior of different simulation back-ends
>> >> >> (espresso vs gromacs). In a real world study, there are very few
>> cases
>> >> >> where one would convert gromacs input files to espresso instead of
>> >> >> simply using gromacs directly.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Christoph
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Best Regards!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Zhicheng
>> >> >> >
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