2013/12/16 Sergey Larin <[email protected]>
>
> Dear Sikandar,
>
> Thank you for your help. I've done everything you describe already. I've 
> prepared mapping and topology files and start test IBI process. I'll try to 
> describe problem that exists, from my point of view in more details.
> Let's use notation proposed by you and see at A-B distribution. Monomer unit 
> of my polymer consists of 11 beads that have 4 different types: 
> -C1-D1-A1-D1-C1-B1-A2-B2-B3-A3-B4-
> This topology is described in VOTCA mapping file that I use to calculate 
> distributions with csg_stat. Of course, it excludes interactions for beads 
> bonded directly. for example, A2-B2 and B3-A3 pairs are not included in 
> distribution. This is right. But it should also exclude pairs in which beads 
> are connected by two consecutive bonds, for example, A2-B3 and B2-A3, but 
> csg_stat does not do this exclusion. That is why I have the peak on the A-B 
> pair distribution function. And this is a problem.
> As far as I know, Gromacs does not calcuate non-bonded interactions for beads 
> connected by one, two and three consecutive bonds, thus only interactions 
> between pairs B1-A3 and A2-B4 are calculated during simulation. Thus, only 
> these two pairs should be taken into account when calculation distribution, 
> and csg_stat does not do this.
>
> So, my question is how to exclude 1-3 and 1-4 pairs from distributions 
> calculated by csg_stat? Is it possible at all? Unfortunately I've not found 
> any solutions neither in manual, nor in tutorial samples.
VOTCA has no way to define the number of consecutive bonds to exclude,
but you can create a couple of extra bonds and angles to achieve the
same number of exclusions.

Cheers,

Christoph
>
> Sincerely,
> Sergey
>
>
> суббота, 14 декабря 2013 г., 0:41:51 UTC+4 пользователь sikandar написал:
>>
>> Hi Sergey
>>
>> From your description of the problem, I understand that you want to use 
>> csg_stat to compute
>> only the non-bonded distributions between specified atoms. Right?
>>
>> If so.. csg_stat can be used to compute both bonded and non-bonded 
>> distributions separately.
>> To achieve that one approach would be to specify your molecule topology that 
>> each atom has
>> unique and different name though there may be multiple atoms of same type. 
>> In your monomer case,
>> there are four different types of atoms A, B, C, D, and each monomer 
>> consists of 2 As, 3 Bs, 2Cs, and 2 Ds.
>> Then, in topology, you can specify atom types as A, B, C, D and atom names 
>> are A1, A2, B1, B2, B3, C1, C2,
>> and D1, and D2. For clarification, you can check out the propane example in 
>> votca-tutorials.
>>
>> Now with above mentioned topolopy, you can compute non-bonded distributions 
>> between A1-A2, C1-C2, and so on.
>>
>> Next, if you want to perform coarse-graining and need a reference pair 
>> distributions then first you need to define
>> a mapping to specify how to determine CG beads configurations from a given 
>> reference all-atom configuration. Then
>> you can provide this mapping file to csg_stat to determine target 
>> distributions for coarse-graining.
>> Again you can check out propane example and votca manual to get more 
>> information about how to achieve this.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Sikandar
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:36 AM, Sergey Larin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear votca users,
>>>
>>> I've faced one more problem (not so big, I suppose) in coarsegrainig using 
>>> votca. I've found that csg_stat calculate pair distribution functions 
>>> taking into account atoms that are bonded. As a result the distributions 
>>> have peaks that correspond to bonded interaction (see the picture, in the 
>>> molecule I'm coarsegraining the monomer unit is -C-D-A-D-C-A-B-B-A-B-). It 
>>> is clear for me that it is pretty useless to perform IBI for non-bonded 
>>> interactions using these distribution as target ones. Thus, my question is 
>>> how to say csg_stat to exclude bonded atoms from distribution caclulations? 
>>> Unfortunately, I've found only the way to create exclusion list for 
>>> non-bonded interactions to perform reference simulations for bonded 
>>> interactions distributions.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Sergey
>>>
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