Sorry for the late replay, but I don't really have a good answer to
your question.

Maybe you could try to:
- run the cg simulation without dihedrals and see how much the
distributions actually differ. If it isn't a lot you might don't even
need diheral interactions.
- do the IBI of the dihedrals at the very end, when the non-bonded,
angle and bond are already fitted. dihedrals are usually weak
interactions, so that should work.
- if your bonds can stretch a lot you might need to help gromacs to
guess their max lengths, so that you don't run into a domain
decomposition error (use  -rdd option of mdrun)

Cheers,

Christoph

2013/12/9 Chandan Choudhury <[email protected]>:
> Dear all,
>
>
> I am facing some weird problem while using tabulated potentials (esp.
> dihedral tabulated potentials) in gromacs 4.6.3. I am trying to generate a
> coarse grained (CG) trajectory using the tabulated potentials generated for
> the atomistic simulations using VOTCA.
>
> When I donot use the dihedral tabulated potentials, the simulations seems to
> proceed smoothly. The problem arises when the dihedral potentials are
> incorporated. I have added a link of all the files generated during the
> undermentioned runs (https://www.dropbox.com/s/yumzdufuys1ifdr/with-dih.tar)
> . It also includes the input files. Here, I list the problem and how do they
> occur :
>
> 1. $mdrun_463 -v -nice 0 -cpt 1 -cpi state.cpt -nt 2 -pin on (1st Run) >&
> ver1.txt
> Progress smoothly for few steps (step 536400). Shows the following error :
>
> A list of missing interactions:
>            Tab. Dih. of    720 missing      1
>
> Molecule type 'POLCAR'
> the first 10 missing interactions, except for exclusions:
>            Tab. Dih. atoms    6    7    8    9 global   858   859   860
> 861
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Program mdrun_463, VERSION 4.6.3
> Source code file: /tmp/gromacs-4.6.3/src/mdlib/domdec_top.c, line: 393
>
> Fatal error:
> 1 of the 2400 bonded interactions could not be calculated because some atoms
> involved moved further apart than the multi-body cut-off distance (1.5 nm)
> or the two-body cut-off distance (1.5 nm), see option -rdd, for pairs and
> tabulated bonds also see option -ddcheck
> For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
> website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Sometimes Life is Obscene" (Black Crowes
>
> 2. Then I continue the run using the state.cpt file
>        $mdrun_463 -v -nice 0 -cpt 1 -cpi state.cpt -nt 2 -pin on >& ver2.txt
>
> Further progressed for few more steps (step 973100). Following error is
> produced here:
>
> A list of missing interactions:
>          Tab. Angles of    800 missing      1
>            Tab. Dih. of    720 missing      1
>
> Molecule type 'POLCAR'
> the first 10 missing interactions, except for exclusions:
>            Tab. Dih. atoms    9   10   11   12 global   237   238   239
> 240
>          Tab. Angles atoms   10   11   12      global   238   239   240
>
> Back Off! I just backed up dd_dump_err_0_n1.pdb to
> ./#dd_dump_err_0_n1.pdb.1#
>
> Back Off! I just backed up dd_dump_err_0_n0.pdb to
> ./#dd_dump_err_0_n0.pdb.1#
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Program mdrun_463, VERSION 4.6.3
> Source code file: /tmp/gromacs-4.6.3/src/mdlib/domdec_top.c, line: 393
>
> Fatal error:
> 2 of the 2400 bonded interactions could not be calculated because some atoms
> involved moved further apart than the multi-body cut-off distance (1.5 nm)
> or the two-body cut-off distance (1.5 nm), see option -rdd, for pairs and
> tabulated bonds also see option -ddcheck
> For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
> website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> "She's a Good Sheila Bruce" (Monty Python)
>
> 3. Again continued the simulation
>            $mdrun_463 -v -nice 0 -cpt 1 -cpi state.cpt -nt 2 -pin on >&
> ver3.txt
>             Simulation proceeds for further for step 3692700. The again
> crashed with the following output:
>
> A list of missing interactions:
>          Tab. Angles of    800 missing      1
>            Tab. Dih. of    720 missing      2
>
> Molecule type 'POLCAR'
> the first 10 missing interactions, except for exclusions:
>            Tab. Dih. atoms    6    7    8    9 global   306   307   308
> 309
>          Tab. Angles atoms    7    8    9      global   307   308   309
>            Tab. Dih. atoms    7    8    9   10 global   307   308   309
> 310
>
> Back Off! I just backed up dd_dump_err_0_n0.pdb to
> ./#dd_dump_err_0_n0.pdb.2#
>
> Back Off! I just backed up dd_dump_err_0_n1.pdb to
> ./#dd_dump_err_0_n1.pdb.2#
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Program mdrun_463, VERSION 4.6.3
> Source code file: /tmp/gromacs-4.6.3/src/mdlib/domdec_top.c, line: 393
>
> Fatal error:
> 3 of the 2400 bonded interactions could not be calculated because some atoms
> involved moved further apart than the multi-body cut-off distance (1.5 nm)
> or the two-body cut-off distance (1.5 nm), see option -rdd, for pairs and
> tabulated bonds also see option -ddcheck
> For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
> website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Though the path of the comet is sure, it's constitution is not" (Peter
> Hammill)
>
> In this way the simulations proceed. At the end it finally stops at step
> 71768380 and no further continuation is possible.
> Error at this stage :
>
>
> Started mdrun on node 0 Mon Dec  9 12:24:52 2013
>
>            Step           Time         Lambda
>        71768380   358841.90000        0.00000
>
>
>    Energies (kJ/mol)
>      Tab. Bonds    Tab. Angles      Tab. Dih.        LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)
>     5.18063e+03    6.57460e+03    8.27504e+02    1.20890e+04    0.00000e+00
>       Potential    Kinetic En.   Total Energy    Temperature Pressure (bar)
>     2.46717e+04    1.12236e+04    3.58953e+04    9.38392e+02    4.95772e+03
>
> DD  step 71768389 load imb.: force  0.5%
>
>
> Not all bonded interactions have been properly assigned to the domain
> decomposition cells
>
> A list of missing interactions:
>            Tab. Dih. of    720 missing      1
>
> Molecule type 'POLCAR'
> the first 10 missing interactions, except for exclusions:
>            Tab. Dih. atoms    9   10   11   12 global    45    46    47
> 48
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Program mdrun_463, VERSION 4.6.3
> Source code file: /tmp/gromacs-4.6.3/src/mdlib/domdec_top.c, line: 393
>
> Fatal error:
> 1 of the 2400 bonded interactions could not be calculated because some atoms
> involved moved further apart than the multi-body cut-off distance (1.5 nm)
> or the two-body cut-off distance (1.5 nm), see option -rdd, for pairs and
> tabulated bonds also see option -ddcheck
> For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
> website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
>
>
> I donot understand why the simulations shows these errors and again it
> continues further for few more steps. In the topology file all the
> interactions are mentioned.
> A point is to be noted here that when I comment the dihedral sections in the
> topology the simulation proceeds very smoothly. All the files are uploaded
> here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/yumzdufuys1ifdr/with-dih.tar)
>
>
> Any insight will be very helpful.
>
>
> Chandan
>
>
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> NCL, Pune
> INDIA
>
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