Hi Chandan,

was your tabulated dihedral potentials actually periodic?

Cheers,

Christoph

2014-01-06 9:47 GMT-07:00 Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>:
> Sorry for the late replay, but I don't really have a good answer to
> your question.
>
> Maybe you could try to:
> - run the cg simulation without dihedrals and see how much the
> distributions actually differ. If it isn't a lot you might don't even
> need diheral interactions.
> - do the IBI of the dihedrals at the very end, when the non-bonded,
> angle and bond are already fitted. dihedrals are usually weak
> interactions, so that should work.
> - if your bonds can stretch a lot you might need to help gromacs to
> guess their max lengths, so that you don't run into a domain
> decomposition error (use  -rdd option of mdrun)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Christoph
>
> 2013/12/9 Chandan Choudhury <[email protected]>:
>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>> I am facing some weird problem while using tabulated potentials (esp.
>> dihedral tabulated potentials) in gromacs 4.6.3. I am trying to generate a
>> coarse grained (CG) trajectory using the tabulated potentials generated for
>> the atomistic simulations using VOTCA.
>>
>> When I donot use the dihedral tabulated potentials, the simulations seems to
>> proceed smoothly. The problem arises when the dihedral potentials are
>> incorporated. I have added a link of all the files generated during the
>> undermentioned runs (https://www.dropbox.com/s/yumzdufuys1ifdr/with-dih.tar)
>> . It also includes the input files. Here, I list the problem and how do they
>> occur :
>>
>> 1. $mdrun_463 -v -nice 0 -cpt 1 -cpi state.cpt -nt 2 -pin on (1st Run) >&
>> ver1.txt
>> Progress smoothly for few steps (step 536400). Shows the following error :
>>
>> A list of missing interactions:
>>            Tab. Dih. of    720 missing      1
>>
>> Molecule type 'POLCAR'
>> the first 10 missing interactions, except for exclusions:
>>            Tab. Dih. atoms    6    7    8    9 global   858   859   860
>> 861
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> Program mdrun_463, VERSION 4.6.3
>> Source code file: /tmp/gromacs-4.6.3/src/mdlib/domdec_top.c, line: 393
>>
>> Fatal error:
>> 1 of the 2400 bonded interactions could not be calculated because some atoms
>> involved moved further apart than the multi-body cut-off distance (1.5 nm)
>> or the two-body cut-off distance (1.5 nm), see option -rdd, for pairs and
>> tabulated bonds also see option -ddcheck
>> For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
>> website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "Sometimes Life is Obscene" (Black Crowes
>>
>> 2. Then I continue the run using the state.cpt file
>>        $mdrun_463 -v -nice 0 -cpt 1 -cpi state.cpt -nt 2 -pin on >& ver2.txt
>>
>> Further progressed for few more steps (step 973100). Following error is
>> produced here:
>>
>> A list of missing interactions:
>>          Tab. Angles of    800 missing      1
>>            Tab. Dih. of    720 missing      1
>>
>> Molecule type 'POLCAR'
>> the first 10 missing interactions, except for exclusions:
>>            Tab. Dih. atoms    9   10   11   12 global   237   238   239
>> 240
>>          Tab. Angles atoms   10   11   12      global   238   239   240
>>
>> Back Off! I just backed up dd_dump_err_0_n1.pdb to
>> ./#dd_dump_err_0_n1.pdb.1#
>>
>> Back Off! I just backed up dd_dump_err_0_n0.pdb to
>> ./#dd_dump_err_0_n0.pdb.1#
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> Program mdrun_463, VERSION 4.6.3
>> Source code file: /tmp/gromacs-4.6.3/src/mdlib/domdec_top.c, line: 393
>>
>> Fatal error:
>> 2 of the 2400 bonded interactions could not be calculated because some atoms
>> involved moved further apart than the multi-body cut-off distance (1.5 nm)
>> or the two-body cut-off distance (1.5 nm), see option -rdd, for pairs and
>> tabulated bonds also see option -ddcheck
>> For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
>> website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "She's a Good Sheila Bruce" (Monty Python)
>>
>> 3. Again continued the simulation
>>            $mdrun_463 -v -nice 0 -cpt 1 -cpi state.cpt -nt 2 -pin on >&
>> ver3.txt
>>             Simulation proceeds for further for step 3692700. The again
>> crashed with the following output:
>>
>> A list of missing interactions:
>>          Tab. Angles of    800 missing      1
>>            Tab. Dih. of    720 missing      2
>>
>> Molecule type 'POLCAR'
>> the first 10 missing interactions, except for exclusions:
>>            Tab. Dih. atoms    6    7    8    9 global   306   307   308
>> 309
>>          Tab. Angles atoms    7    8    9      global   307   308   309
>>            Tab. Dih. atoms    7    8    9   10 global   307   308   309
>> 310
>>
>> Back Off! I just backed up dd_dump_err_0_n0.pdb to
>> ./#dd_dump_err_0_n0.pdb.2#
>>
>> Back Off! I just backed up dd_dump_err_0_n1.pdb to
>> ./#dd_dump_err_0_n1.pdb.2#
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> Program mdrun_463, VERSION 4.6.3
>> Source code file: /tmp/gromacs-4.6.3/src/mdlib/domdec_top.c, line: 393
>>
>> Fatal error:
>> 3 of the 2400 bonded interactions could not be calculated because some atoms
>> involved moved further apart than the multi-body cut-off distance (1.5 nm)
>> or the two-body cut-off distance (1.5 nm), see option -rdd, for pairs and
>> tabulated bonds also see option -ddcheck
>> For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
>> website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "Though the path of the comet is sure, it's constitution is not" (Peter
>> Hammill)
>>
>> In this way the simulations proceed. At the end it finally stops at step
>> 71768380 and no further continuation is possible.
>> Error at this stage :
>>
>>
>> Started mdrun on node 0 Mon Dec  9 12:24:52 2013
>>
>>            Step           Time         Lambda
>>        71768380   358841.90000        0.00000
>>
>>
>>    Energies (kJ/mol)
>>      Tab. Bonds    Tab. Angles      Tab. Dih.        LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)
>>     5.18063e+03    6.57460e+03    8.27504e+02    1.20890e+04    0.00000e+00
>>       Potential    Kinetic En.   Total Energy    Temperature Pressure (bar)
>>     2.46717e+04    1.12236e+04    3.58953e+04    9.38392e+02    4.95772e+03
>>
>> DD  step 71768389 load imb.: force  0.5%
>>
>>
>> Not all bonded interactions have been properly assigned to the domain
>> decomposition cells
>>
>> A list of missing interactions:
>>            Tab. Dih. of    720 missing      1
>>
>> Molecule type 'POLCAR'
>> the first 10 missing interactions, except for exclusions:
>>            Tab. Dih. atoms    9   10   11   12 global    45    46    47
>> 48
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> Program mdrun_463, VERSION 4.6.3
>> Source code file: /tmp/gromacs-4.6.3/src/mdlib/domdec_top.c, line: 393
>>
>> Fatal error:
>> 1 of the 2400 bonded interactions could not be calculated because some atoms
>> involved moved further apart than the multi-body cut-off distance (1.5 nm)
>> or the two-body cut-off distance (1.5 nm), see option -rdd, for pairs and
>> tabulated bonds also see option -ddcheck
>> For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
>> website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
>>
>>
>> I donot understand why the simulations shows these errors and again it
>> continues further for few more steps. In the topology file all the
>> interactions are mentioned.
>> A point is to be noted here that when I comment the dihedral sections in the
>> topology the simulation proceeds very smoothly. All the files are uploaded
>> here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/yumzdufuys1ifdr/with-dih.tar)
>>
>>
>> Any insight will be very helpful.
>>
>>
>> Chandan
>>
>>
>> --
>> Chandan kumar Choudhury
>> NCL, Pune
>> INDIA
>>
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>> NCL, Pune
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