Dear Christoph

Thank you for the update. It is fine.

Takahiro


2016年5月23日月曜日 21時14分37秒 UTC+2 Christoph Junghans:
>
> 2016-05-23 5:23 GMT-06:00 Takahiro Ohkuma <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>>: 
> > Dear Christoph 
> > 
> > I found a possible way to avoid the jumps in dihedral distributions. 
> > There are 3 points I should notice. 
> > 
> > (1) 
> > The bin range of the histogram is made as [ x - 0.5 * step , x + 0.5 * 
> > step]. 
> > Therefore, when I choose min=-3.14, max=3.14, and step=0.04, the 
> histogram 
> > gets sudden drops at both ends because there are no data in the ranges 
> of 
> > [-3.16, -pi] and [pi, 3.16]. 
> > I think I should choose the values so that "min - 0.5 * step >= -pi" and 
> > "max + 0.5 * step <= pi". 
> > In addition, it is better to make (max - min)/step be integer. If not, 
> the 
> > situation could become more complicated because the bin width of the 
> > histogram seems not to be the same as step value defined in the xml 
> file. 
> > 
> > 
> > (2) 
> > The periodic option should be off. If there are data greater than 
> > max+0.5*step, they are counted in the periodic potion. 
> > For example, if I choose min=-3.12, min=3.12, and step=0.04 with the 
> > periodic option, the histogram again jumps at both data ends by the 
> > populations in [-pi, -3.14] and [3,14, pi]. The magnitude of the jumps 
> is 
> > around 4% because (pi - 3.14)/0.04 ~ 0.0398. 
> > 
> > (3) 
> > There might be a possible bug in line 53 of 
> > tools/src/libtools/histogramnew.cc. I think floor function should be 
> used 
> > instead of int as follows. 
> >  i = (int)((v - _min)/ _step + 0.5); 
> >  i = (int)floor((v - _min)/ _step + 0.5); 
> > 
> > Because i should be a negative integer if v is less than _min - 
> 0.5*_step. 
> > But, for instance, int(-0.1) = 0 not -1. 
> > This could lead a jump at one end of the histogram because some data are 
> > over-counted as i=0. 
> > I found a similar problem in line 76 of tools/src/libtools/histogram.cc. 
> Thanks for the nice summary, can you try this commit 
>
> https://github.com/votca/tools/commit/79e67b43eb7eee6ca69051f733643d4a26b81f8d
>  
> i.e. 
> $ cd tools 
> $ git pull 
> $ git checkout histogram 
> $ make 
> $ make install 
>
> Thanks, 
>
> Christoph 
> > 
> > Best regards 
> > Takahiro 
> > 
> > 
> > 2016年5月20日金曜日 17時08分09秒 UTC+2 Christoph Junghans: 
> >> 
> >> 2016-05-20 7:17 GMT-06:00 Takahiro Ohkuma <[email protected]>: 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 2016年5月19日木曜日 19時20分44秒 UTC+2 Christoph Junghans: 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 2016-05-19 11:07 GMT-06:00 Takahiro Ohkuma <[email protected]>: 
> >> >> > Dear Christoph 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > I am really grateful for writing a patch. 
> >> >> > Unfortunately, the patch seems not to help for my problem. 
> >> >> > I obtained almost the same results for the dihedral distribution 
> and 
> >> >> > the 
> >> >> > inverted potential. They still have jumps at the data ends. 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Just to make sure, I would like to write down the way I carried 
> out 
> >> >> > to 
> >> >> > install your patch. 
> >> >> > 1) I downloaded and install votca via "./build.sh 
> --prefix=${prefix} 
> >> >> > -ud 
> >> >> > tools csg" in a new directory. 
> >> >> Do 1.) and then 
> >> >> $ cd csg 
> >> >> $ git pull 
> >> >> $ git checkout origin/Dihedral 
> >> >> $ make 
> >> >> $ make install 
> >> >> You might have to do some debugging to find out where the jump comes 
> >> >> from, e.g. add a debug message when a point around -pi gets insert 
> in 
> >> >> the histogram. 
> >> > 
> >> > Yes, I would try to do this. Could you tell me the place of codes in 
> >> > which 
> >> > the histograms and potentials are computed during ibi? 
> >> > tools/src/libtools/histogram.cc? 
> >> Have a look here: 
> >> <
> https://github.com/votca/csg/blob/master/src/tools/csg_stat_imc.cc#L283> 
> >> 
> >> Christoph 
> >> > 
> >> > Takahiro 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> > 2) The two files of interaction.h and csg_stat_imc.cc files are 
> >> >> > replaced 
> >> >> > with your patch. 
> >> >> > 3) I typed again "./build.sh --prefix=${prefix} -ud tools csg" to 
> >> >> > enable 
> >> >> > the 
> >> >> > patch. 
> >> >> > 4) I sourced the new VOTCARC.bash before a simulation. 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Can I use a simplex method for bonded interactions such as 
> >> >> > Ryckaert-Bellemans functions? 
> >> >> It won't be hard, but you will have to do some coding! 
> >> >> You either need to write a file telling gnuplot how 
> Ryckaert-Bellemans 
> >> >> are made up of cos functions or a parameter translator from VOTCA to 
> >> >> gromacs. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Christoph 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Best regards 
> >> >> > Takahiro 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 2016年5月19日木曜日 0時01分51秒 UTC+2 Christoph Junghans: 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> 2016-05-18 11:56 GMT-06:00 Takahiro Ohkuma <[email protected]>: 
>
> >> >> >> > Dear Christoph 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > Thank you for your suggestions. Unfortunately, I found it was 
> >> >> >> > difficult 
> >> >> >> > for 
> >> >> >> > me to find out a clue in the votca source codes. 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > In the csg_boltzmann conmmand, I could obtain a smooth profile 
> on 
> >> >> >> > condition 
> >> >> >> > that "periodic = 1". There are no jumps at the data ends. 
> >> >> >> > Is it possible to turn on the periodic option during ibi 
> process? 
> >> >> >> Can you check if the following patch helps: 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> <
> https://github.com/votca/csg/commit/63f8d822187142dc82f3787dd2211a282e39b85b> 
>
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> Christoph 
> >> >> >> > Or, can Votoca omit two data at both ends during ibi? 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > Best regards 
> >> >> >> > Takahiro 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > 2016年5月12日木曜日 19時07分37秒 UTC+2 Christoph Junghans: 
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> 2016-05-11 10:47 GMT-06:00 Takahiro Ohkuma <
> [email protected]>: 
> >> >> >> >> > Dear Christoph 
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> > Thank you very much for your prompt reply! 
> >> >> >> >> > I am doing short simulations becase I have not tried the 
> >> >> >> >> > numbers 
> >> >> >> >> > you 
> >> >> >> >> > suggested. I would like to share the results once I get 
> them. 
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> > I have seen a similar behavior when I made the dihedral 
> >> >> >> >> > potential 
> >> >> >> >> > through 
> >> >> >> >> > boltzmann inversion by using csg_boltzmann. 
> >> >> >> >> If this is happening in csg_boltzmann as well, it sounds like 
> a 
> >> >> >> >> problem in the histogram class. 
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> > At that time, I clipped the edges as a poorly sampled 
> region. 
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> > Takahiro 
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> > 2016年5月11日水曜日 17時17分56秒 UTC+2 Christoph Junghans: 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> 2016-05-11 4:35 GMT-06:00 Takahiro Ohkuma 
> >> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]>: 
> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear all 
> >> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> >> > I am trying IBI for the bonded interactions of my polymer 
> >> >> >> >> >> > because 
> >> >> >> >> >> > the 
> >> >> >> >> >> > bonded 
> >> >> >> >> >> > potentials obtained by a single-chain simulation in 
> vacuum 
> >> >> >> >> >> > did 
> >> >> >> >> >> > not 
> >> >> >> >> >> > well 
> >> >> >> >> >> > reproduce the bond distributions in the melt. 
> >> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> >> > According to the tutorial of "hexane/ibi_bonded", I made 
> a 
> >> >> >> >> >> > setting.xml 
> >> >> >> >> >> > and 
> >> >> >> >> >> > prepared other files. 
> >> >> >> >> >> > But, at the calculation of dihedral distribution in the 
> IBI 
> >> >> >> >> >> > steps, 
> >> >> >> >> >> > I 
> >> >> >> >> >> > always 
> >> >> >> >> >> > meet a strange sharp peak at an edge of the distribution 
> >> >> >> >> >> > (one 
> >> >> >> >> >> > data 
> >> >> >> >> >> > point) as 
> >> >> >> >> >> > the attached png file. This gives a sharp dihedral 
> potential 
> >> >> >> >> >> > at 
> >> >> >> >> >> > the 
> >> >> >> >> >> > edge, 
> >> >> >> >> >> > and then the next simulation often diverges. 
> >> >> >> >> >> > Although I tried other values of <min>, <max>, and 
> <step>, 
> >> >> >> >> >> > the 
> >> >> >> >> >> > situation 
> >> >> >> >> >> > did 
> >> >> >> >> >> > not changed. 
> >> >> >> >> >> > Is there any ways to manage this peak in the setting.xml? 
> >> >> >> >> >> Your settings.xml look correct to me! 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> IBI for dihedrals isn't very well test and it looks to me 
> >> >> >> >> >> there 
> >> >> >> >> >> is 
> >> >> >> >> >> an 
> >> >> >> >> >> issue with boundary conditions, i.e. dihedrals are 
> periodic. 
> >> >> >> >> >> Did you try to set max=-min=2.5, or min=0.5 and max= 
> 2pi-0.5? 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> Looking at the distribution, it seems the bug is in 
> csg_stat 
> >> >> >> >> >> itself. 
> >> >> >> >> >> I 
> >> >> >> >> >> guess the problem is here: 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> <
> https://github.com/votca/csg/blob/master/src/tools/csg_stat_imc.cc#L400> 
> >> >> >> >> >> It is marked as a TODO ;-) 
> >> >> >> >> >> However, the normalization should not matter as IBI does a 
> >> >> >> >> >> ratio 
> >> >> >> >> >> of 
> >> >> >> >> >> the distributions, but for the periodic histograms there 
> might 
> >> >> >> >> >> be 
> >> >> >> >> >> a 
> >> >> >> >> >> round off error. 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> Christoph 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> >> > Best regards 
> >> >> >> >> >> > Takahiro 
> >> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> >> > -- 
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> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> -- 
> >> >> >> >> >> Christoph Junghans 
> >> >> >> >> >> Web: http://www.compphys.de 
> >> >> >> >> > 
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> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> -- 
> >> >> >> >> Christoph Junghans 
> >> >> >> >> Web: http://www.compphys.de 
> >> >> >> > 
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> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> -- 
> >> >> >> Christoph Junghans 
> >> >> >> Web: http://www.compphys.de 
> >> >> > 
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> >> >> 
> >> >> -- 
> >> >> Christoph Junghans 
> >> >> Web: http://www.compphys.de 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 2016年5月19日木曜日 19時20分44秒 UTC+2 Christoph Junghans: 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 2016-05-19 11:07 GMT-06:00 Takahiro Ohkuma <[email protected]>: 
> >> >> > Dear Christoph 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > I am really grateful for writing a patch. 
> >> >> > Unfortunately, the patch seems not to help for my problem. 
> >> >> > I obtained almost the same results for the dihedral distribution 
> and 
> >> >> > the 
> >> >> > inverted potential. They still have jumps at the data ends. 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Just to make sure, I would like to write down the way I carried 
> out 
> >> >> > to 
> >> >> > install your patch. 
> >> >> > 1) I downloaded and install votca via "./build.sh 
> --prefix=${prefix} 
> >> >> > -ud 
> >> >> > tools csg" in a new directory. 
> >> >> Do 1.) and then 
> >> >> $ cd csg 
> >> >> $ git pull 
> >> >> $ git checkout origin/Dihedral 
> >> >> $ make 
> >> >> $ make install 
> >> >> You might have to do some debugging to find out where the jump comes 
> >> >> from, e.g. add a debug message when a point around -pi gets insert 
> in 
> >> >> the histogram. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> > 2) The two files of interaction.h and csg_stat_imc.cc files are 
> >> >> > replaced 
> >> >> > with your patch. 
> >> >> > 3) I typed again "./build.sh --prefix=${prefix} -ud tools csg" to 
> >> >> > enable 
> >> >> > the 
> >> >> > patch. 
> >> >> > 4) I sourced the new VOTCARC.bash before a simulation. 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Can I use a simplex method for bonded interactions such as 
> >> >> > Ryckaert-Bellemans functions? 
> >> >> It won't be hard, but you will have to do some coding! 
> >> >> You either need to write a file telling gnuplot how 
> Ryckaert-Bellemans 
> >> >> are made up of cos functions or a parameter translator from VOTCA to 
> >> >> gromacs. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> Christoph 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Best regards 
> >> >> > Takahiro 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 2016年5月19日木曜日 0時01分51秒 UTC+2 Christoph Junghans: 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> 2016-05-18 11:56 GMT-06:00 Takahiro Ohkuma <[email protected]>: 
>
> >> >> >> > Dear Christoph 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > Thank you for your suggestions. Unfortunately, I found it was 
> >> >> >> > difficult 
> >> >> >> > for 
> >> >> >> > me to find out a clue in the votca source codes. 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > In the csg_boltzmann conmmand, I could obtain a smooth profile 
> on 
> >> >> >> > condition 
> >> >> >> > that "periodic = 1". There are no jumps at the data ends. 
> >> >> >> > Is it possible to turn on the periodic option during ibi 
> process? 
> >> >> >> Can you check if the following patch helps: 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> <
> https://github.com/votca/csg/commit/63f8d822187142dc82f3787dd2211a282e39b85b> 
>
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> Christoph 
> >> >> >> > Or, can Votoca omit two data at both ends during ibi? 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > Best regards 
> >> >> >> > Takahiro 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > 2016年5月12日木曜日 19時07分37秒 UTC+2 Christoph Junghans: 
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> 2016-05-11 10:47 GMT-06:00 Takahiro Ohkuma <
> [email protected]>: 
> >> >> >> >> > Dear Christoph 
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> > Thank you very much for your prompt reply! 
> >> >> >> >> > I am doing short simulations becase I have not tried the 
> >> >> >> >> > numbers 
> >> >> >> >> > you 
> >> >> >> >> > suggested. I would like to share the results once I get 
> them. 
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> > I have seen a similar behavior when I made the dihedral 
> >> >> >> >> > potential 
> >> >> >> >> > through 
> >> >> >> >> > boltzmann inversion by using csg_boltzmann. 
> >> >> >> >> If this is happening in csg_boltzmann as well, it sounds like 
> a 
> >> >> >> >> problem in the histogram class. 
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> > At that time, I clipped the edges as a poorly sampled 
> region. 
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> > Takahiro 
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> > 2016年5月11日水曜日 17時17分56秒 UTC+2 Christoph Junghans: 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> 2016-05-11 4:35 GMT-06:00 Takahiro Ohkuma 
> >> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]>: 
> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear all 
> >> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> >> > I am trying IBI for the bonded interactions of my polymer 
> >> >> >> >> >> > because 
> >> >> >> >> >> > the 
> >> >> >> >> >> > bonded 
> >> >> >> >> >> > potentials obtained by a single-chain simulation in 
> vacuum 
> >> >> >> >> >> > did 
> >> >> >> >> >> > not 
> >> >> >> >> >> > well 
> >> >> >> >> >> > reproduce the bond distributions in the melt. 
> >> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> >> > According to the tutorial of "hexane/ibi_bonded", I made 
> a 
> >> >> >> >> >> > setting.xml 
> >> >> >> >> >> > and 
> >> >> >> >> >> > prepared other files. 
> >> >> >> >> >> > But, at the calculation of dihedral distribution in the 
> IBI 
> >> >> >> >> >> > steps, 
> >> >> >> >> >> > I 
> >> >> >> >> >> > always 
> >> >> >> >> >> > meet a strange sharp peak at an edge of the distribution 
> >> >> >> >> >> > (one 
> >> >> >> >> >> > data 
> >> >> >> >> >> > point) as 
> >> >> >> >> >> > the attached png file. This gives a sharp dihedral 
> potential 
> >> >> >> >> >> > at 
> >> >> >> >> >> > the 
> >> >> >> >> >> > edge, 
> >> >> >> >> >> > and then the next simulation often diverges. 
> >> >> >> >> >> > Although I tried other values of <min>, <max>, and 
> <step>, 
> >> >> >> >> >> > the 
> >> >> >> >> >> > situation 
> >> >> >> >> >> > did 
> >> >> >> >> >> > not changed. 
> >> >> >> >> >> > Is there any ways to manage this peak in the setting.xml? 
> >> >> >> >> >> Your settings.xml look correct to me! 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> IBI for dihedrals isn't very well test and it looks to me 
> >> >> >> >> >> there 
> >> >> >> >> >> is 
> >> >> >> >> >> an 
> >> >> >> >> >> issue with boundary conditions, i.e. dihedrals are 
> periodic. 
> >> >> >> >> >> Did you try to set max=-min=2.5, or min=0.5 and max= 
> 2pi-0.5? 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> Looking at the distribution, it seems the bug is in 
> csg_stat 
> >> >> >> >> >> itself. 
> >> >> >> >> >> I 
> >> >> >> >> >> guess the problem is here: 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> <
> https://github.com/votca/csg/blob/master/src/tools/csg_stat_imc.cc#L400> 
> >> >> >> >> >> It is marked as a TODO ;-) 
> >> >> >> >> >> However, the normalization should not matter as IBI does a 
> >> >> >> >> >> ratio 
> >> >> >> >> >> of 
> >> >> >> >> >> the distributions, but for the periodic histograms there 
> might 
> >> >> >> >> >> be 
> >> >> >> >> >> a 
> >> >> >> >> >> round off error. 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> Christoph 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> >> > Best regards 
> >> >> >> >> >> > Takahiro 
> >> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> >> > -- 
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