2016-08-30 12:33 GMT-06:00 Chang Woon Jang <changwoonj...@gmail.com>:
> Dear Christoph,
>
>    It runs smoothly up to 12500 iterations. After that the error still exist
> as follows. Luckily, 10K iterations do not produce the error.
The below error means a bond got stretched more than 2.02391 nm, which
seems a bit unphysical.
You can look at your bond distributions if 2.02391 nm has a
probability greater than 0.
I guess, you will have to pick the min and max more carefully the xml
file for the bonds when using csg_call.
As rule of thumb min and max should lie on a downwards slopping, but
not quite 0 yet, part of the distribution.
After all the extrapolation csg_call does (see manual for details) the
potentials should look like a deformed U or W, you can check that by
look at the xvg output file.

Christoph
>
>
>
> DD  step 12499 load imb.: force  5.6%
>
>            Step           Time         Lambda
>           12500        6.25000        0.00000
>
>    Energies (kJ/mol)
>      Tab. Bonds    Tab. Angles      Tab. Dih.        LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)
>     1.21732e+03    8.55168e+02    1.85141e+02    2.66780e+03    0.00000e+00
>       Potential    Kinetic En.   Total Energy    Temperature Pressure (bar)
>     4.92543e+03    3.80913e+03    8.73456e+03    3.13896e+02    1.21927e+03
>
>
> Not all bonded interactions have been properly assigned to the domain
> decomposition cells
>
> A list of missing interactions:
>            Tab. Dih. of    108 missing      1
>
> Molecule type 'JMT'
> the first 10 missing interactions, except for exclusions:
>            Tab. Dih. atoms    1    2    3    4 global   927   928   929
> 930
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Program gmx, VERSION 5.0.8-dev-20151014-1f04b58
> Source code file:
> /home/chang/PACKAGE/votca/src/gromacs/src/gromacs/mdlib/domdec_top.c, line:
> 394
>
> Fatal error:
> 1 of the 1720 bonded interactions could not be calculated because some atoms
> involved moved further apart than the multi-body cut-off distance (2.02391
> nm) or the two-body cut-off distance (2.02391 nm), see option -rdd, for
> pairs and tabulated bonds also see option -ddcheck
> For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
> website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> Best regards,
> Changwoon Jang
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Chang Woon Jang <changwoonj...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Christoph,
>>
>>    Did you also change original bond and angle tables to gromacs format?
>>
>> If so, how do I determine the min and max values for bond and angle
>> tables?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Changwoon Jang
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Christoph Junghans <jungh...@votca.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> thanks for sending the potentials.
>>> Here is what I did:
>>> $ ls table_d*.txt
>>> table_d1.txt  table_d2.txt  table_d3.txt  table_d4.txt
>>> # These are the potentials out of csg_boltzmann
>>> $ cat table_d.xml
>>> <cg>
>>>   <bonded>
>>>     <!-- name of the interaction -->
>>>     <name>dihedral</name>
>>>     <min>-3.141</min>
>>>     <max>3.141</max>
>>>     <step>0.001</step>
>>>   </bonded>
>>>   <inverse>
>>>     <gromacs>
>>>       <pot_max>1e8</pot_max>
>>>       <table_bins>0.001</table_bins>
>>>     </gromacs>
>>>   </inverse>
>>> </cg>
>>> $ for i in table_d*.txt; do csg_call --options table_d.xml --ia-type
>>> dihedral --ia-name dihedral --sloppy-tables convert_potential gromacs
>>> $i ${i%.txt}.xvg; done
>>> This basically does:
>>> csg_call --options table_d.xml --ia-type dihedral --ia-name dihedral
>>> --sloppy-tables convert_potential gromacs table_d1.txt table_d1.xvg
>>> csg_call --options table_d.xml --ia-type dihedral --ia-name dihedral
>>> --sloppy-tables convert_potential gromacs table_d2.txt table_d2.xvg
>>> csg_call --options table_d.xml --ia-type dihedral --ia-name dihedral
>>> --sloppy-tables convert_potential gromacs table_d3.txt table_d3.xvg
>>> csg_call --options table_d.xml --ia-type dihedral --ia-name dihedral
>>> --sloppy-tables convert_potential gromacs table_d4.txt table_d4.xvg
>>> Please note you need the "--sloppy-tables" option as you want to
>>> ignore the third column of  table_d1.txt
>>> Alternatively you could replace the 3rd column by "i":
>>> $ awk '/^[^#]/{print $1,$2,"i"}' table_d1.txt > fixed_table_d1.txt
>>> Then a I ran gromacs
>>> $ gmx mdrun -tableb table_[abd]*.xvg -v
>>> Please mind that this is gromacs 2016. which is why you need the
>>> "-tableb" option. (Gromacs 5.0 was made obsolete a while back by its
>>> developers.)
>>>
>>> Seems to work for at least 10k steps.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Christoph
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2016-08-29 20:52 GMT-06:00 Christoph Junghans <jungh...@votca.org>:
>>> > 2016-08-29 15:19 GMT-06:00 Chang Woon Jang <changwoonj...@gmail.com>:
>>> >> Dear Christoph,
>>> >>
>>> >>    Can I run ibi without dihedrals? Actually, I do not need dihedral
>>> >> potentials even though CG molecules have dihedrals. Or, any
>>> >> suggestions for
>>> >> debugging the dihedrals. Actually, the warning signs disappeared but I
>>> >> have
>>> >> still the same Fatal error.
>>> > Please send me the table and the xml off-list and I will have a look.
>>> >
>>> > And of course you can run IBI on a subset of the interactions, see
>>> > <https://github.com/votca/csg-tutorials/tree/master/hexane/ibi>
>>> > In this example only the non-bonded interactions are iterated.
>>> >
>>> > Christoph
>>> >>
>>> >> Thank you.
>>> >>
>>> >> Best regards,
>>> >> Changwoon Jang
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Christoph Junghans
>>> >> <jungh...@votca.org>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2016-08-29 13:32 GMT-06:00 Chang Woon Jang <changwoonj...@gmail.com>:
>>> >>> > Dear Votca Users,
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >    I have four dihedral distributions directly from csg_boltzmann.
>>> >>> > However,
>>> >>> > only one dihedral distribution gives waning sign during IBI run as
>>> >>> > follows.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > WARNING: For the 359 non-zero entries for table 0 in table_d1.xvg
>>> >>> > the
>>> >>> > forces
>>> >>> > deviate on average 196% from minus the numerical derivative of the
>>> >>> > potential
>>> >>> That means something went wrong in the table conversion!
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Then, the IBI fails with Fatal error: 1 of the 1720 bonded
>>> >>> > interactions
>>> >>> > could not be calculated because some atoms involved moved further
>>> >>> > apart
>>> >>> > than
>>> >>> > the multi-body cut-off distance (2.02391 nm) or the two-body
>>> >>> > cut-off
>>> >>> > distance (2.02391 nm), see option -rdd, for pairs and tabulated
>>> >>> > bonds
>>> >>> > also
>>> >>> > see option -ddcheck
>>> >>> That is most likely due to the above warning.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > I am not sure why only one dihedral gives this warning and prevent
>>> >>> > IBI
>>> >>> > run.
>>> >>> > Do you have any comments on that?
>>> >>> IBI for dihedral interactions is a bit tricky and not very well
>>> >>> testing in VOTCA, so you will need to do a bit a debugging on your
>>> >>> side.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Christoph
>>> >>>
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > I have converted dihedral distribution radian to angle (only first
>>> >>> > column)
>>> >>> > due to the ibi requirement just using unit convert     x*180/3.14
>>> >>> > (x is
>>> >>> > radian).
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Thank you.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Best regards,
>>> >>> > Changwoon Jang,
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