2016-08-30 13:18 GMT-06:00 Chang Woon Jang <[email protected]>:
> Dear Christoph,
>
>      I think that bond potentials seem to be good with U shape using
> csg_call --options options.xml --ia-type bond --ia-name bond
> convert_potential gromacs
Yeah, the attached bond potentials actually look decent.

I have another idea, see below...
>
>
>     The following potentials in figures are obtained from csg_call. I am not
> sure of forces though. With all those potentials, now it does not run even
> single iteration.
>
>
>
> Started mdrun on rank 0 Tue Aug 30 15:10:53 2016
>            Step           Time         Lambda
>               0        0.00000        0.00000
>
>
>    Energies (kJ/mol)
>      Tab. Bonds    Tab. Angles      Tab. Dih.        LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)
>     5.01406e+03    1.41421e+05    2.15701e+02    2.49642e+03    0.00000e+00
>       Potential    Kinetic En.   Total Energy    Temperature Pressure (bar)
>     1.49147e+05    3.66788e+03    1.52815e+05    3.02256e+02    1.68470e+03
>
> DD  step 9 load imb.: force  6.7%
>
>
> Not all bonded interactions have been properly assigned to the domain
> decomposition cells
>
> A list of missing interactions:
>          Tab. Angles of    856 missing      1
This could be a problem too. That means there is a missing interaction
for one angle!

Christoph
>
> Molecule type 'TDM'
> the first 10 missing interactions, except for exclusions:
>          Tab. Angles atoms    1    3    2      global   201   203   202
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Program gmx, VERSION 5.0.8-dev-20151014-1f04b58
> Source code file:
> /home/chang/PACKAGE/votca/src/gromacs/src/gromacs/mdlib/domdec_top.c, line:
> 394
>
> Fatal error:
> 1 of the 1720 bonded interactions could not be calculated because some atoms
> involved moved further apart than the multi-body cut-off distance (2.02391
> nm) or the two-body cut-off distance (2.02391 nm), see option -rdd, for
> pairs and tabulated bonds also see option -ddcheck
> For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
> website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> Best regards,
> Changwoon Jang
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> 2016-08-30 12:33 GMT-06:00 Chang Woon Jang <[email protected]>:
>> > Dear Christoph,
>> >
>> >    It runs smoothly up to 12500 iterations. After that the error still
>> > exist
>> > as follows. Luckily, 10K iterations do not produce the error.
>> The below error means a bond got stretched more than 2.02391 nm, which
>> seems a bit unphysical.
>> You can look at your bond distributions if 2.02391 nm has a
>> probability greater than 0.
>> I guess, you will have to pick the min and max more carefully the xml
>> file for the bonds when using csg_call.
>> As rule of thumb min and max should lie on a downwards slopping, but
>> not quite 0 yet, part of the distribution.
>> After all the extrapolation csg_call does (see manual for details) the
>> potentials should look like a deformed U or W, you can check that by
>> look at the xvg output file.
>>
>> Christoph
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > DD  step 12499 load imb.: force  5.6%
>> >
>> >            Step           Time         Lambda
>> >           12500        6.25000        0.00000
>> >
>> >    Energies (kJ/mol)
>> >      Tab. Bonds    Tab. Angles      Tab. Dih.        LJ (SR)   Coulomb
>> > (SR)
>> >     1.21732e+03    8.55168e+02    1.85141e+02    2.66780e+03
>> > 0.00000e+00
>> >       Potential    Kinetic En.   Total Energy    Temperature Pressure
>> > (bar)
>> >     4.92543e+03    3.80913e+03    8.73456e+03    3.13896e+02
>> > 1.21927e+03
>> >
>> >
>> > Not all bonded interactions have been properly assigned to the domain
>> > decomposition cells
>> >
>> > A list of missing interactions:
>> >            Tab. Dih. of    108 missing      1
>> >
>> > Molecule type 'JMT'
>> > the first 10 missing interactions, except for exclusions:
>> >            Tab. Dih. atoms    1    2    3    4 global   927   928   929
>> > 930
>> >
>> > -------------------------------------------------------
>> > Program gmx, VERSION 5.0.8-dev-20151014-1f04b58
>> > Source code file:
>> > /home/chang/PACKAGE/votca/src/gromacs/src/gromacs/mdlib/domdec_top.c,
>> > line:
>> > 394
>> >
>> > Fatal error:
>> > 1 of the 1720 bonded interactions could not be calculated because some
>> > atoms
>> > involved moved further apart than the multi-body cut-off distance
>> > (2.02391
>> > nm) or the two-body cut-off distance (2.02391 nm), see option -rdd, for
>> > pairs and tabulated bonds also see option -ddcheck
>> > For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the
>> > GROMACS
>> > website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
>> > -------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Changwoon Jang
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Chang Woon Jang
>> > <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dear Christoph,
>> >>
>> >>    Did you also change original bond and angle tables to gromacs
>> >> format?
>> >>
>> >> If so, how do I determine the min and max values for bond and angle
>> >> tables?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thank you.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Changwoon Jang
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Christoph Junghans
>> >> <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> thanks for sending the potentials.
>> >>> Here is what I did:
>> >>> $ ls table_d*.txt
>> >>> table_d1.txt  table_d2.txt  table_d3.txt  table_d4.txt
>> >>> # These are the potentials out of csg_boltzmann
>> >>> $ cat table_d.xml
>> >>> <cg>
>> >>>   <bonded>
>> >>>     <!-- name of the interaction -->
>> >>>     <name>dihedral</name>
>> >>>     <min>-3.141</min>
>> >>>     <max>3.141</max>
>> >>>     <step>0.001</step>
>> >>>   </bonded>
>> >>>   <inverse>
>> >>>     <gromacs>
>> >>>       <pot_max>1e8</pot_max>
>> >>>       <table_bins>0.001</table_bins>
>> >>>     </gromacs>
>> >>>   </inverse>
>> >>> </cg>
>> >>> $ for i in table_d*.txt; do csg_call --options table_d.xml --ia-type
>> >>> dihedral --ia-name dihedral --sloppy-tables convert_potential gromacs
>> >>> $i ${i%.txt}.xvg; done
>> >>> This basically does:
>> >>> csg_call --options table_d.xml --ia-type dihedral --ia-name dihedral
>> >>> --sloppy-tables convert_potential gromacs table_d1.txt table_d1.xvg
>> >>> csg_call --options table_d.xml --ia-type dihedral --ia-name dihedral
>> >>> --sloppy-tables convert_potential gromacs table_d2.txt table_d2.xvg
>> >>> csg_call --options table_d.xml --ia-type dihedral --ia-name dihedral
>> >>> --sloppy-tables convert_potential gromacs table_d3.txt table_d3.xvg
>> >>> csg_call --options table_d.xml --ia-type dihedral --ia-name dihedral
>> >>> --sloppy-tables convert_potential gromacs table_d4.txt table_d4.xvg
>> >>> Please note you need the "--sloppy-tables" option as you want to
>> >>> ignore the third column of  table_d1.txt
>> >>> Alternatively you could replace the 3rd column by "i":
>> >>> $ awk '/^[^#]/{print $1,$2,"i"}' table_d1.txt > fixed_table_d1.txt
>> >>> Then a I ran gromacs
>> >>> $ gmx mdrun -tableb table_[abd]*.xvg -v
>> >>> Please mind that this is gromacs 2016. which is why you need the
>> >>> "-tableb" option. (Gromacs 5.0 was made obsolete a while back by its
>> >>> developers.)
>> >>>
>> >>> Seems to work for at least 10k steps.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>>
>> >>> Christoph
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 2016-08-29 20:52 GMT-06:00 Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>:
>> >>> > 2016-08-29 15:19 GMT-06:00 Chang Woon Jang
>> >>> > <[email protected]>:
>> >>> >> Dear Christoph,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>    Can I run ibi without dihedrals? Actually, I do not need
>> >>> >> dihedral
>> >>> >> potentials even though CG molecules have dihedrals. Or, any
>> >>> >> suggestions for
>> >>> >> debugging the dihedrals. Actually, the warning signs disappeared
>> >>> >> but I
>> >>> >> have
>> >>> >> still the same Fatal error.
>> >>> > Please send me the table and the xml off-list and I will have a
>> >>> > look.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > And of course you can run IBI on a subset of the interactions, see
>> >>> > <https://github.com/votca/csg-tutorials/tree/master/hexane/ibi>
>> >>> > In this example only the non-bonded interactions are iterated.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Christoph
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Thank you.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Best regards,
>> >>> >> Changwoon Jang
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Christoph Junghans
>> >>> >> <[email protected]>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> 2016-08-29 13:32 GMT-06:00 Chang Woon Jang
>> >>> >>> <[email protected]>:
>> >>> >>> > Dear Votca Users,
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >    I have four dihedral distributions directly from
>> >>> >>> > csg_boltzmann.
>> >>> >>> > However,
>> >>> >>> > only one dihedral distribution gives waning sign during IBI run
>> >>> >>> > as
>> >>> >>> > follows.
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > WARNING: For the 359 non-zero entries for table 0 in
>> >>> >>> > table_d1.xvg
>> >>> >>> > the
>> >>> >>> > forces
>> >>> >>> > deviate on average 196% from minus the numerical derivative of
>> >>> >>> > the
>> >>> >>> > potential
>> >>> >>> That means something went wrong in the table conversion!
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > Then, the IBI fails with Fatal error: 1 of the 1720 bonded
>> >>> >>> > interactions
>> >>> >>> > could not be calculated because some atoms involved moved
>> >>> >>> > further
>> >>> >>> > apart
>> >>> >>> > than
>> >>> >>> > the multi-body cut-off distance (2.02391 nm) or the two-body
>> >>> >>> > cut-off
>> >>> >>> > distance (2.02391 nm), see option -rdd, for pairs and tabulated
>> >>> >>> > bonds
>> >>> >>> > also
>> >>> >>> > see option -ddcheck
>> >>> >>> That is most likely due to the above warning.
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > I am not sure why only one dihedral gives this warning and
>> >>> >>> > prevent
>> >>> >>> > IBI
>> >>> >>> > run.
>> >>> >>> > Do you have any comments on that?
>> >>> >>> IBI for dihedral interactions is a bit tricky and not very well
>> >>> >>> testing in VOTCA, so you will need to do a bit a debugging on your
>> >>> >>> side.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Christoph
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > I have converted dihedral distribution radian to angle (only
>> >>> >>> > first
>> >>> >>> > column)
>> >>> >>> > due to the ibi requirement just using unit convert
>> >>> >>> > x*180/3.14
>> >>> >>> > (x is
>> >>> >>> > radian).
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > Thank you.
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > Best regards,
>> >>> >>> > Changwoon Jang,
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