2016-08-31 12:24 GMT-06:00 Chang Woon Jang <[email protected]>:
> Dear Christoph,
>
>      I have tested IBI with angle potential from hexane tutorial. I replace
> hexane angle potential with table_a1.xvg in my system. In topol.top, I used
> all tabulated angle potentials (8) instead of harmonic angles (2).
Are you trying to do IBI on the bonded interaction, too? Or are they fixed?

>
>    Now, it smoothly works. I think that the A-B-A type angle potential
> (table_a1.xvg) has a problem.
>
>    As you said, what does that mean of "you might want to extrapolate toward
> 180 degree at bit steeper"?  I would like to refine the potential of
> table_a1.xvg because of the rest of potentials look fine at least IBI
> running.
Does the angle distribution have a non-zero value at 180 degree?

Christoph
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best regards,
> Changwoon Jang
>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Christoph Junghans <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> 2016-08-31 10:58 GMT-06:00 Chang Woon Jang <[email protected]>:
>> > Dear Christoph,
>> >
>> >     When I change only harmonic angle from tabulated angle for "TDM"
>> > molecule in topology file (topol.top) as follow, it smoothly now works.
>> > The
>> > rest of bond, angle, dihedral still usethe  tabulated (8) potentials.
>> >
>> >    What does this mean? Is The tabulated angle potential derived for TDM
>> > molecule incorrect?
>> I just means something isn't ok with that potential.
>> Look at the angle potentials of the original VOTCA paper
>> <http://dx.doi.org/10.1021/ct900369w>
>> From the tables you sent yesterday, you might want to extrapolate
>> toward 180 degree at bit steeper.
>>
>> If you are doing IBI, you don't have to use the Boltzmann inverted
>> potential, you can always start from a harmonic potential as the
>> initial guess.
>>
>>
>> Christoph
>>
>> >
>> > [ angles ]
>> > 1 3 2     2    1   1.0   <--- originally 8
>> > 1 3 4     2    1   1.0   <--- originally 8
>> > 1 3 5     2    1   1.0   <--- originally 8
>> > 2 3 4     2    1   1.0   <--- originally 8
>> > 2 3 5     2    1   1.0   <--- originally 8
>> > 4 3 5     2    1   1.0   <--- originally 8
>> >
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Changwoon Jang
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Christoph Junghans
>> > <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> 2016-08-31 9:25 GMT-06:00 Chang Woon Jang <[email protected]>:
>> >> > Dear Christoph,
>> >> >
>> >> >     IBI still fails few iteration later the angle is going and coming
>> >> > at
>> >> > the
>> >> > boundary. See the figures. I am not sure why GROMACS does not
>> >> > consider
>> >> > the
>> >> > PBC effect. The 201-202-203 angle looks like over 180 degree. Do you
>> >> > have
>> >> > any suggestion?
>> >> Well, not really. I guess it is time to debug your topology!
>> >> I would start with using some harmonic interactions for all angles
>> >> (with approximately the right mean and width) and replace them one by
>> >> one to see, which one make the simulation crash.
>> >>
>> >> Christoph
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you.
>> >> >
>> >> > Best regards,
>> >> > Changwoon Jang
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Christoph Junghans
>> >> > <[email protected]>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2016-08-31 8:43 GMT-06:00 Chang Woon Jang <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> > Dear Votca Users,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >    I have missed the figures. Figure 1 is initial configuration.
>> >> >> > Figure
>> >> >> > 2 is
>> >> >> > the final iteration (1000 iteration) right before the ibi fails.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thank you.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Best regards,
>> >> >> > Changwoon Jang
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Chang Woon Jang
>> >> >> > <[email protected]>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Dear Votca Users,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>     I have a question about creating initial configuration of the
>> >> >> >> system.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>     1. Full atomistic simulation ---- I have run full atomistic
>> >> >> >> simulations of polymer system with OPLS-AA force field. Then, it
>> >> >> >> (low
>> >> >> >> density system) was equilibrated with NVT and NPT simulation for
>> >> >> >> 50
>> >> >> >> ns.
>> >> >> >> Thus, the box under PBC is shrinked from 10nm to about 5nm.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>     2. Then, I used the final configuration (confout.gro) in
>> >> >> >> order
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> map
>> >> >> >> the atomistic system into Coarse-grained system.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>     I used this CG system for IBI in order to get non-bonded
>> >> >> >> potentials.
>> >> >> >> However, when I run IBI, I think that some of angle are blowing
>> >> >> >> up
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> ibi run finally fail in the beginning. I checked CG trajectory.
>> >> >> >> An
>> >> >> >> angle
>> >> >> >> seem to be blowing up as shown in figure.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>    I think this is ok if the system is under PBC. But the error
>> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> keeps indicate this angle has a problem.
>> >> >> You might want to run
>> >> >> $ gmx trjconv -f conf_in.gro -o conf_out.gro -pbc mol
>> >> >> to make molecule whole.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Christoph
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>    Therefore, I am asking for how you create the initial CG
>> >> >> >> system
>> >> >> >> all
>> >> >> >> beads are inside box but not at the boundary.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thank you.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ****************************************************************************************************
>> >> >> >> Not all bonded interactions have been properly assigned to the
>> >> >> >> domain
>> >> >> >> decomposition cells
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> A list of missing interactions:
>> >> >> >>          Tab. Angles of    856 missing      1
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Molecule type 'TDM'
>> >> >> >> the first 10 missing interactions, except for exclusions:
>> >> >> >>          Tab. Angles atoms    1    3    2      global   201   203
>> >> >> >> 202
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ******************************************************************************************************
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Best regards,
>> >> >> >> Changwoon Jang,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
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