On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 7:29 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 在 2018年12月7日星期五 UTC+8上午6:07:29,Christoph Junghans写道:
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 9:29 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm using VOTCA to coarse-grain a relatively simple polyether system, 
>> > [C-C-O-C-C]n, and a super atom just represents a single monomer. After 
>> > performing an all-atom simulation in LAMMPS, I got a trajectory file 
>> > (trj_tail20.dump) and a final data file (nvt_300K_final.data). I wrote my 
>> > own map and topol .xml files, and then use them to calculate the RDF of 
>> > the system.
>> >
>> > What got me frustrated is that, the RDF I obtained using csg_stat (figure 
>> > AA.png) seems to be questionable. Because if I use LAMMPS to generate the 
>> > RDF of the central O atom using the final data file, I got a different 
>> > result (AA-LAMMPS.png). And the most strange thing is that if I use OVITO 
>> > to analyze the CG configuration I converted using the csg_map command, I 
>> > got a similar result compared to that of lammps simulation (AA-OVITO.png).
>> >
>> > Because the RDF is a quite important intermediate process file, so I 
>> > wonder what resulted in the above difference? And could I trust the one 
>> > generated through VOTCA?
>>
>> csg_stat has been tested over years, so I don't think there is a
>> problem in the code.
>> But I saw your topol.xml has a <bond> section, which in VOTCA
>> generates a bunch of RDF exclusions, i.e. pairs in a bond aren't
>> considered for the RDF calculation. You can see that running:
>> $ csg_dump --top topol.xml --excl
>>
>> So if you don't want that just delete that section.
>>
> Yes, I've just tested it, the difference surely comes from the bond 
> definition. However, it's not the
> bond info in the topol.xml file, but the </cg_bonded> section in the mapping 
> 'cg.xml' file. If I just
> delete that section, then I will get the same RDF as the one generated from 
> LAMMPS (I attached
> the figure).
You are right, it is the <cg_bonded> block as you are using a mapping
file, which then sets up bonds (with exclusions) in the mapped system.

However, on a second thought, I don't think the bonds should be
included in RDF unless you are planning to use the non-bonded
interactions also between cg beads in the same molecule.

>
> Thanks. And now I will think about which one is suitable for my case.
>
>> Also in the development version of VOTCA you can use LAMMPS' data
>> files as topology input directly.
>>
> But if I use the LAMMPS data as a top file, then there will be many unkown 
> molecule problems (it
> may comes from LAMMPS use numbers to represent atoms and molecules), so I 
> would rather write
> a topol.xml myself. However, from my previous test, a data could be used as a 
> trjactory file, though
> it only contains one frame, may generate a rough RDF curve.
Please open an issue on github for each of the "unkown molecule
problems", maybe we can help fix the code or your input file.

Christoph
>
> Anyway, thank you very much for your reply. :)
>
> Meng
>
>> Christoph
>>
>> >
>> > Meng
>> >
>> > P.S.
>> > The command I used to generate RDF is "csg_stat --top topol.xml --trj 
>> > trj.dump --cg cg.xml --options settings.xml"
>> >
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