On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 3:43 AM Ali Khodayari <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Dear Christoph,
>
> Thank you for your response. Shall I replace the new potential_to_gromacs.sh 
> with the one I already have?
Yeah, just copy the new version over in your installation.

>
> I have another question. Could it be because of the type of dihedral I chose 
> that the potential does not exhibit high peaks on the two ends? The thing 
> that does not show it good to me is that I have very low energies on the two 
> ends of the parabolic shape.

I honestly don't know.

>
> How can I adjust the amplitude of the two sides? For some of the potentials I 
> see very large peaks of 50000 and for some only 100 after extrapolating the 
> two sides. I also tried diffent extrapolators for my potentials.
The extrapolation is done by taking the average slope of last 3 valid
points on each side and that sometimes over/underestimates the slope,
but usually the extrapolated part of the potential doesn't really
matter much (for bonds and angles at least).

Christoph
>
> My regards,
> Ali
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Christoph 
> Junghans
> Sent: vrijdag 21 februari 2020 0:48
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [votca] derivation of potentials for dihedral
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 10:29 AM Ali Khodayari <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Dears,
> >
> >
> >
> > I am trying to derive potentials for a CG cellobiose-water system. I am 
> > using IBI. The non-bonded interactions are derived using the distributions 
> > taken from csg_stat, and I am trying to use csg_boltzmann to get the 
> > potentials for bonded interactions.
> >
> >
> >
> > As the simulations crash at the very first step of the iteration, I tried 
> > to add the potentials one by one (first bonds, then angles, and at the end 
> > dihedrals).
> >
> >
> >
> > An error which I face regularly is:
> >
> >
> >
> > A tabulated bond interaction table number 1 is out of the table range:
> > r
> >
> > 0.501462, between table indices 501 and 502, table length 501
> >
> >
> >
> > I believe this is due to high forces between atoms at some point, shooting 
> > the atoms to distances higher than the table’s length.
> >
> >
> >
> > After solving the issues with the bonds and angles, I am now trying to get 
> > a nice potential for the dihedrals in my system. Yet, the potentials for 
> > the dihedrals always look very weird (see table_d1.xvg). Without including 
> > this table, the simulations in gromacs at least run for 1000 steps (1ps), 
> > but including this crashes the simulations at the very first step. I am 
> > using the following commands for csg_boltzmann:
> >
> >
> >
> > csg_boltzmann --cg "cellobiose.xml;water.xml" --top md_at.tpr --trj
> > md_at.trr < boltzmann_cmds2
> >
> >
> >
> > having Boltzmann_cmds as:
> >
> >
> >
> > tab set T 300
> >
> > tab set smooth_pot 1
> >
> > tab set n 101
> >
> > tab dihedral_yrry.pot *:dihedral-YRRY:*
> >
> > q
> >
> >
> >
> > The output is already looking very strange (see dihedral_yyry.pot)
> >
> > Then I use the following commands to get the table:
> >
> >
> >
> > BOND_FILE=$"dihedral_yrry.pot"
> >
> > SETTINGS="convert_dihedral.xml"
> >
> >
> >
> > # cut bad sampled regions at the boundaries
> >
> > sed -e '1,33d' -e 's/$/ i/' $BOND_FILE | tac | sed -e '1,0d' | tac > 
> > "$BOND_FILE.cut"
> >
> >
> >
> > csg_call table smooth "$BOND_FILE.cut" "$BOND_FILE.smooth"
> >
> > csg_resample --in "$BOND_FILE.smooth" --out "$BOND_FILE.refined"
> > --grid 0:0.001:3.135
> >
> > csg_call table extrapolate --function quadratic --region left 
> > "$BOND_FILE.refined" "$BOND_FILE.refined1"
> >
> > csg_call table extrapolate --function quadratic --region right 
> > "$BOND_FILE.refined1" "$BOND_FILE.cur"
> >
> > csg_call --ia-type dihedral --ia-name dihedral --options $SETTINGS
> > convert_potential gromacs "$BOND_FILE.cur" table_d${2}.xvg
> >
> >
> >
> > and the .xml file looks like this:
> >
> >
> >
> > <cg>
> >
> >   <bonded>
> >
> >       <bondtype>dihedral</bondtype>
> >
> >     <name>dihedral</name>
> >
> >     <min>0</min>
> >
> >     <max>3.1415</max>
> >
> >     <step>0.001</step>
> >
> >     <inverse>
> >
> >       <gromacs>
> >
> >         <table>table_d1.xvg</table>
> >
> >       </gromacs>
> >
> >     </inverse>
> >
> >   </bonded>
> >
> >
> >
> >   <inverse>
> >
> >     <gromacs>
> >
> >       <pot_max>1e6</pot_max>
> >
> >       <table_end>3.1415</table_end>
> >
> >       <min>0.0</min>
> >
> >       <max>3.1415</max>
> >
> >       <table_bins>0.004</table_bins>
> >
> >     </gromacs>
> >
> >   </inverse>
> >
> > </cg>
> >
> >
> >
> > I have tried to cut different edges of the potential, but they all seem not 
> > logical to me, and moreover, cause the simulation to crash at the very 
> > beginning.
> >
> >
> >
> > Would you please kindly let me know if I am doing something wrong and/or 
> > how I can resolve this issue?
> All that looks pretty reasonable to me, we recently found a bug in dihedral 
> potential conversion see:
> https://github.com/votca/csg/pull/500
> but in general dihedral IBI is pretty still pretty experimental in IBI and we 
> should most likely add a warning about that to the code.
> I, personally, have not worked with dihedral potentials enough to give any 
> advice on this matter.
>
> Christoph
> >
> >
> >
> > My best,
> >
> > Ali
> >
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